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Chef CEO Defends Contract with ICE
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Re: Chef CEO Defends Contract with ICE
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Except it's not. ICE is not the Third Reich, period.
Except ICE is doing the same thing as the Third Reich - running concentration camps.
That's a ridiculous statement. Not just dishonest, but totally offensive to a certain ethnic group. Please consider your words next time.
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More fundamentally, this was an attempt to damage the customers of a former employer. In effect, it's no different from logic bombs and tech vandalism in general. While there may be a case for "their public work, they can do whatever" I'd put money on this person announcing their intent to take down customer systems which makes it malicious.
I'm OK with sabotage that does not resort in injuries or loss of life as a means of nonviolent protest.
Are you also ok with this means of protest being directed at your property?
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I agree, I think its not an apples-to-apples comparison, and that is slightly intentional. I want to highlight the same decision to be made under a less frictional commodity to ask the question: where does one draw the line on what they supply? There are some obvious lines probably. You would not want to be a gun manufacturer that sold guns directly to drug cartels, for example.
I think it's reasonable to say "this software is open and anyone can use it, and we don't control who downloads and runs it themselves". I also think it's reasonable, given an entity you don't want to do business with, to say "we don't enter into contracts (even our standard contracts) with these entities, and we don't provide any kind of support to these entities".
I think that's reasonable -- but also the reverse is reasonable. "Company decides to continue working with US government" should not be news.
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We're a hell of a lot closer than we should be. The Japanese-American internment camps during WWII were bad enough, but this? This is worse because these refugees we're mistreating are fleeing the consequences of our dealings in Latin America. If these refugees are indeed a problem, they are a problem we brought upon ourselves, and we are making it worse .
Ok, but in this example the Japanese Americans are not Americans and they traveled thousands of miles to voluntarily join the internment camps.
False on both counts.
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I believe you’ve hit the nail on the head with this. This is the most accurate and succinct way to show how this looks.
Godwin's Law is supposed to demonstrate the reductive nature of comparing everything to Nazism, it's supposed to be a logical fallacy.
Re: Chef CEO Defends Contract with ICE
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#99Concentration camp, internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment, usually by executive decree or military order. Persons are placed in such camps often on the basis of identification with a particular ethnic or political group rather than as individuals and without benefit either of indictment or fair trial. Concentration camps are to be distinguished from prisons interning persons lawfully convicted of civil crimes and from prisoner-of-war camps in which captured military personnel are held under the laws of war.
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Godwin's Law is supposed to demonstrate the reductive nature of comparing everything to Nazism, it's supposed to be a logical fallacy.
Mr. Godwin would like a word: https://web.archive.org/web/20170814022147/https://m.faceboo... https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/12/14/...
I don't think you can retroactively change the meaning of a point you made decades earlier.