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Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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European here, trying to actually buy the thing. You can't. The first reservations will be fulfilled in the middle of 2020, but those will only be the mid-sized battery versions. If you want the version with a larger battery, there is no firm ship date, but it is expected in 2021. What I find somewhat amusing is that for the past months we've been bombarded by a huge marketing campaign advertising a car that doesn't…

If you want an EV now, buy a Tesla/Leaf/Zoe. That's all I'm hearing from VW.

I'm thrilled with my Focus EV (cause Model3 wasn't available when I bought it). I have a basket of features I'd like on my next EV that I don't have now, but it's way better than waiting for the "best" to show up.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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> The central focus is a new 10-inch touchscreen that sits in the middle of the ID.3’s dashboard. But VW has also opted to rely on touch-sensitive buttons throughout the cabin. In fact, the only things that are controlled through physical buttons, VW says, are the windows and the hazard lights. I don't understand why big touch screens in cars are seen as a step forward. To me, they raise safety issues, and they lack…

You also can't use them with gloves on, and at least where I live, I'm always wearing gloves in the winter.

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Be careful when comparing EU prices to US prices: EU prices always include sales tax (varies by country, but 20% in France and 19% in Germany), while US prices never include them. Assuming 10% tariffs and 20% sales taxes, that bumps the $35,000 Tesla to $46,200, or about 42,000 EUR. Indeed the cheapest Model 3 that I could find in France costs 42,600 EUR. If the Volkswagen ID.3 comes in somewhere between 26,000 EUR a…

UK checking in here. Cheapest Model 3 in the UK is £38,500 which is about 44,000 euros or $48,000

(thats including tax, and govt subsidies)

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But the Honda-e has less range, right? Over here it says the Honda-e has about 125 miles of range, putting it on par with a 2016 Leaf. https://ev-database.uk/car/1171/Honda-e

I just discovered this SEAT: https://ev-database.uk/car/1191/SEAT-Mii-Electric This is something I can buy.

Hey thats a pretty good price. Built on the same platform as the ID3 apparently. 125 miles range is OK for 99% of the time. Long journeys then take a bit of planning but its very do-able.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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European here, trying to actually buy the thing. You can't. The first reservations will be fulfilled in the middle of 2020, but those will only be the mid-sized battery versions. If you want the version with a larger battery, there is no firm ship date, but it is expected in 2021. What I find somewhat amusing is that for the past months we've been bombarded by a huge marketing campaign advertising a car that doesn't…

That pretty much sounds like a Tesla 3 marketing campaign? :D

There was a looong wait for those to start shipping too.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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> The central focus is a new 10-inch touchscreen that sits in the middle of the ID.3’s dashboard. But VW has also opted to rely on touch-sensitive buttons throughout the cabin. In fact, the only things that are controlled through physical buttons, VW says, are the windows and the hazard lights. I don't understand why big touch screens in cars are seen as a step forward. To me, they raise safety issues, and they lack…

I think it is cost savings, to be honest. Probably a lot cheaper to throw a screen in a car and iterate on the design then spend the time to design a proper physical interface. With physical buttons it is very expensive to add a new button, with touch screens you just copy in some HTML.

Re: Volkswagen unveils the ID.3, its first affordable long-range electric car

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> The central focus is a new 10-inch touchscreen that sits in the middle of the ID.3’s dashboard. But VW has also opted to rely on touch-sensitive buttons throughout the cabin. In fact, the only things that are controlled through physical buttons, VW says, are the windows and the hazard lights. I don't understand why big touch screens in cars are seen as a step forward. To me, they raise safety issues, and they lack…

I have a Model 3, and ever since I added Alexa Auto, I have no reason to use the touchscreen other than adding a destination to nav. Climate is set to auto. All other configurations automatically switch between my preferences and my wife’s based upon who is in the driver’s seat. I was a skeptic, but now I’m a believer.

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> The central focus is a new 10-inch touchscreen that sits in the middle of the ID.3’s dashboard. But VW has also opted to rely on touch-sensitive buttons throughout the cabin. In fact, the only things that are controlled through physical buttons, VW says, are the windows and the hazard lights. I don't understand why big touch screens in cars are seen as a step forward. To me, they raise safety issues, and they lack…

You should to look at hardware buttons as often as on software ones. Just try to turn heat on in latest MB.

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> The central focus is a new 10-inch touchscreen that sits in the middle of the ID.3’s dashboard. But VW has also opted to rely on touch-sensitive buttons throughout the cabin. In fact, the only things that are controlled through physical buttons, VW says, are the windows and the hazard lights. I don't understand why big touch screens in cars are seen as a step forward. To me, they raise safety issues, and they lack…

Gah the best thing about VWs is their boring and traditional interiors.
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