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EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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If everything is a container, does that mean processes have failed?

A container _is_ a process, just with cgroups associated to it on startup so it has no visibility of other processes in the system (aka. is sandboxed).

So no.. processes haven't failed. Anything that runs on your system is or is part of a process.

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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> embracing of simple GUI tools over terminal wankery, eschewing of the legacy UNIX file hierarchy. So you're telling me I have no tools and no existing tools are going to work. Good to get that out in the open, I suppose.

God forbid someone not create another Ubuntu derivative that isn't substantively different than every other Linux distro on earth, right?

Do you have a point to make about how this is better, or is this change for the sake of change?

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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> embracing of simple GUI tools over terminal wankery, eschewing of the legacy UNIX file hierarchy. So you're telling me I have no tools and no existing tools are going to work. Good to get that out in the open, I suppose.

God forbid someone not create another Ubuntu derivative that isn't substantively different than every other Linux distro on earth, right?

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Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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After spending a scant few minutes looking at it, here are the things I like about this project so far: - It has a "How and why are we different" page. In the age of "I made a meta package on top of Ubuntu and called it a new OS", it's refreshing to see a Linux distribution come right out and say "here's what we do that separates us from the other 700". - It actually is different. Recognizing the nigh-uselessness of…

Maybe it's because of my limited experience with containers but I can't imagine why on earth you would prefer GUI tools (especially a graphical shell) in a container.

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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There is Fedora CoreOS, it seems pretty active. https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker

I'm actually looking for a good container hosting OS right now. I remember hearing some stuff about CoreOS being deprecated or something, but I can't find anything concrete?! Do you know what the situation is? I also looked a bit at RancherOS today, which looked pretty cool, but it seems to use 10x the memory of CoreOS...

If you're mainly just looking for something with Docker preinstalled VMWare's PhotonOS[0] may be an option. It's a stripped down CentOS/RHEL based distro that's targeted at being a container host. I believe they've said they'll also package other container runtimes in the future as the market shifts.

[0] https://vmware.github.io/photon/

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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I'm actually looking for a good container hosting OS right now. I remember hearing some stuff about CoreOS being deprecated or something, but I can't find anything concrete?! Do you know what the situation is? I also looked a bit at RancherOS today, which looked pretty cool, but it seems to use 10x the memory of CoreOS...

If you're mainly just looking for something with Docker preinstalled VMWare's PhotonOS[0] may be an option. It's a stripped down CentOS/RHEL based distro that's targeted at being a container host. I believe they've said they'll also package other container runtimes in the future as the market shifts. [0] https://vmware.github.io/photon/

Thanks, this isn't one I've come across!

A quick look shows the ISO as ~4GB, which is a bit concerning though - CoreOS is around 450MB, and RancherOS only 135MB (although it's a bit difficult to compare, since they both download stuff during boot).

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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God forbid someone not create another Ubuntu derivative that isn't substantively different than every other Linux distro on earth, right?

Do you have a point to make about how this is better , or is this change for the sake of change?

GUI tools provide significantly better discoverability, for one. The file hierarchy is a mess to put it mildly.

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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If everything is a container, does that mean processes have failed?

Containers run processes, in a context where those within a container only see those within the same container, by underlying OS accounting generalization.

Containers aren't even a thing like that though. They don't run anything per se. Implementations vary but it can be as simple as an extra struct field in the process list.

Re: EasyOS: An experimental Linux distribution designed from scratch for containers

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're mainly just looking for something with Docker preinstalled VMWare's PhotonOS[0] may be an option. It's a stripped down CentOS/RHEL based distro that's targeted at being a container host. I believe they've said they'll also package other container runtimes in the future as the market shifts. [0] https://vmware.github.io/photon/

Thanks, this isn't one I've come across! A quick look shows the ISO as ~4GB, which is a bit concerning though - CoreOS is around 450MB, and RancherOS only 135MB (although it's a bit difficult to compare, since they both download stuff during boot).

That's not the install size. From the documentation there are multiple install options ranging in size so they just decided to package it all in one. "Minimal" install is like 400-500 MB iirc.
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