Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
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Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
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#2The author expects people to fully understand stallmans world view and to thoroughly examine his position.
However, the author did not pay the same regard to Salam G., the author of the original post reporting on the most recent of Stallmans shitty proclamations. The author shows no sign of understanding why it's important that Stallman was fired, nor did he show he had done to work to try and get it.
You can safely ignore this. I came away worse for having read it.
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#3I'm no fan of Stallman, but this was a very odd reason to give the guy the boot. They're mad at Epstein, and he's dead, so they need other people to direct their anger at.
Who knows what Minsky may or may not have done? Nobody. He's dead too.
So when Stallman did some awkward speculating, these women constructed false stories about what Stallman said, and then used these false statements as lies to get Stallman fired.
Any man with any sense would be wise not to involve women in any way, shape, or form in a project or company.
Re: Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
#4The author expects people to fully understand stallmans world view and to thoroughly examine his position. However, the author did not pay the same regard to Salam G., the author of the original post reporting on the most recent of Stallmans shitty proclamations. The author shows no sign of understanding why it's important that Stallman was fired, nor did he show he had done to work to try and get it. You can safely…
> The author shows no sign of understanding why it's important that Stallman was fired...
Not sure that's fair. In the conclusion he writes:
> The goals Selam G. seeks to advance are good ones. Institutions like MIT need to closely consider their past and present treatment of women. People at those institutions, and perhaps even Stallman himself, need to have their worst impulses checked, or possibly even be removed altogether.
He was arguing for something like a due process in firing Stallman, not for not firing him.
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#5I'm no fan of Stallman, but this was a very odd reason to give the guy the boot. They're mad at Epstein, and he's dead, so they need other people to direct their anger at. Who knows what Minsky may or may not have done? Nobody. He's dead too. So when Stallman did some awkward speculating, these women constructed false stories about what Stallman said, and then used these false statements as lies to get Stallman fired…
SJWs are out of control and doing real damage, but don't generalize your grudge to half of humanity.
Re: Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
#6I'm no fan of Stallman, but this was a very odd reason to give the guy the boot. They're mad at Epstein, and he's dead, so they need other people to direct their anger at. Who knows what Minsky may or may not have done? Nobody. He's dead too. So when Stallman did some awkward speculating, these women constructed false stories about what Stallman said, and then used these false statements as lies to get Stallman fired…
SJWs are out of control and doing real damage, but don't generalize your grudge to half of humanity.
> SJWs are out of control and doing real damage
[citation needed]
Re: Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
#7The author expects people to fully understand stallmans world view and to thoroughly examine his position. However, the author did not pay the same regard to Salam G., the author of the original post reporting on the most recent of Stallmans shitty proclamations. The author shows no sign of understanding why it's important that Stallman was fired, nor did he show he had done to work to try and get it. You can safely…
read the article
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
SJWs are out of control and doing real damage, but don't generalize your grudge to half of humanity.
> SJWs are out of control and doing real damage [citation needed]
Out of control SJW right here:
[1](https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08/08/eric-clanton-takes-3...)
Re: Concerning ‘Remove Richard Stallman’
#9The author expects people to fully understand stallmans world view and to thoroughly examine his position. However, the author did not pay the same regard to Salam G., the author of the original post reporting on the most recent of Stallmans shitty proclamations. The author shows no sign of understanding why it's important that Stallman was fired, nor did he show he had done to work to try and get it. You can safely…
Why would anyone pay any attention to Salam who is being intellectually and factually dishonest to advance their agenda against Stallman?
If you have an issue with Stallman’s comments, then you go after those comments, not misquoting and twisting his words into something he clearly did not write.
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#10Our culture has made a very bright line decision that sex with minors is unacceptable. Expressing doubt about this cultural norm, or especially advocating against it, is considered unacceptable. Of course one can argue with the merits of those two facts, but they are plainly true and fairly widely accepted.
The very concept of statutory rape reinforces how clear this judgment is. The reference to "statutory" means that the mere facts of the act taking place mean that the conduct is off limits. Things like "consent" or even a misrepresentation of the person's age are generally considered irrelevant.
As a society we've decided that there aren't really exceptions to this. If sex with minors occurs it's not OK, there isn't much need to further investigate why it happened.
Stallman, and anyone else commenting here, has really no basis to claim ignorance of this phenomenally clear social norm, which if broken will result in being fired from just about any public facing institution. It's on a pretty short list of such norms, alongside things like displaying your genitals in a board meeting.
While I appreciate the efforts to make this into some kind of principled argument, I don't find "first they came for the people advocating for sex with minors" to be particularly compelling.