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Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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Isn’t that a bit of a sexist logo...?

I think so, yes, though I do think it's nicely drawn and not unartistic (e.g. the kiss being implied). In my opinion it's offensive, for a few reasons. First is that the woman's pose derives from images of 'feeble' femininity (e.g. old Marilyn Monroe films; sexy, innocent, willing). I don't think there's any need to hark back to such absurd stereotypes. Second, it assumes my preferred aesthetic isn't, for example, bi…

Maybe it's not assuming anything about your preferences. Maybe it's catering to one of my preferred aesthetics, which happens to be 'feeble' feminity (as you put it).

Yes, it's a stereotype, but not an arbitrary one - and no less absurd than a bearded man blowing a kiss.

Or maybe it's just a silly logo that's not worth deconstructing.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #135

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On closer inspection, it doesn't look like it's a viable alternative. My biggest gripe with Alpine is that it uses musl instead of glibc. Most python C based dependencies require glibc to build. Looks like Kiss uses musl too. Alpine's been fine though for other uses, Go and Node apps for instance.

As an alpine alternative, may I suggest Distroless [1]? I had a lot of issues in the past with alpine due to lack of "community" and docs around some problems, as well as musl causing issues with all sorts of nodejs build tools (bower, yarn). [1]: https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/distroless

wow, thanks! I'll try playing around with these images. The cc variant looks perfect for what I need.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

#153
post #147

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How is fragmentation a "big problem"? There are like what, four distros? - Debian and *buntu - Red Hat - Fedora - Suse All of them use systemd. All use X11 or wayland. All package gnome. All DEs, WMs etc. are available on all these distros. Smaller distros can reuse whatever is available for that distros, see for example chrome or skype.

What do you mean reuse whatever is available? Non derivative distros are going to be using their own package manager and not just using some prebuilt package for another system. But regardless, I agree, fragmentation isn't really a problem. It would be very rare indeed for some software to only work on some distro but not another. And if this was the case, you could probably change it with enough work (swap out libc…

I mean for example this:

https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=googl...

Google only packages chrome as .deb and .rpm, but you can still get it on other distros anyways.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

#155
post #138

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This looks to be inspired by pinup poster girls so she's most likely wearing a dress like in [1] but with her right arm on her stomach. [1] https://thewondrous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Pinup-Art...

I don't want to overanalyze this, but there is a small dark upward bump between the breasts which makes the white stuff look like a bra or bikini top to me. Note also how there is black below it as it wraps around to the back. If all that black space were her right arm, it would have a bump in the middle, and she would hold it in a very awkward position with the hand wrapping around to her back below her left arm. Se…

The upward bump at the top is the line between her breasts, you can see it in the painting i linked too, but the logo is black and white so it is more obvious. It could be thinner but seems that all lines on it were drawn with the same width. The upward bump at the bottom is the silhouette her breasts are making on her right forearm as a background. Imagine if [1] or [2] was tilted a bit forward and the right forearm was below her breasts. In both of these paintings the breast silhouettes are visible due to shading even though the colors are soft and they aren't tilted like the woman in the logo. Again since the logo is black and white it makes the silhouettes more pronounced since it relies on them for definition.

The black below is her arm from the elbow to the hand. The hand is just at the bottom right of the image with the line going in a /| shape right below the elbow of the left (right as we see it) arm. The tip is the fingers. They look a bit too long but i think it is mainly due to the line width.

The anatomy could have been better (the neck is a bit too long, the left shoulder is a bit too rotated, the left upper arm is a bit too short) and a couple of lines are too long that can be distracting, but overall it is very obvious to me that this is a pose with a tilted head, right arm on stomach and below breasts touching the side/back, left arm rotated a bit forward, on top of second arm with a slight angle in the elbow.

I mean, it could be a bikini but it also could be a dress like in all the images i linked at. There is not enough detail to say one way or another, the only hint is that the image is inspired by 40s pinup posters and at least from a Google Images search one or two had girls wear just a bra or bikini. All others use full clothes and dresses.

[1] https://muscleheaded.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/frahm.jpg

[2] https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940s-Pin-Up-Girl-Glamour-Shot-Pict...

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

#156
post #67

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I've been staring at the logo for a few minutes now and I cannot make head or tails of it. It just looks like a random squiggle to me.

It’s a woman with the top of head cropped

Thanks, now I see it

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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I'm surprised at the closed-mindedness of the comments here: usually browsing HN I read wonderful insights on tech how "you can't assume X, technology Y has a place and that place is Z". Here commenters appear unable to accept that this tech has a place because it doesn't include "app/feature X" or it doesn't abide by "rule Y". I'm more interested in the ripple effects seen here than the original article.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

#160
post #76

Keep making the biggest problem of Linux bigger, please... Yeah, this problem is "fragmentation", and it is not solved with "simplicity".

This "problem" you talk about is not a problem in my view but rather a essential freedom in free software.

People's computers are like their cars we like to customize and mod them because it's cool and remember, you own it so it gives a sense of pride.

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