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Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is fragmentation a "big problem"? There are like what, four distros? - Debian and *buntu - Red Hat - Fedora - Suse All of them use systemd. All use X11 or wayland. All package gnome. All DEs, WMs etc. are available on all these distros. Smaller distros can reuse whatever is available for that distros, see for example chrome or skype.

5 distros is not fragmentation? seriously? so much facepalm

Try actually reading what I wrote and not attacking straw men.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #34

That logo makes it a non-starter in any organization I've seen in the last decade.

Regardless of that logo, those north-American organizations would not be running a minimalist Linux distro written by a single guy in the first place, but some sort of Lovecraftian Kubernetes setup involving redundancy everywhere, especially in the software stack.

It never occurred to me before, but the word "Lovecraftian" is indeed perfect for describing the modern approach to infrastructure. Well put.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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Very curious, applying the "less is more* philosophy by making even more Linux distributions...

It is because they are using a mathematical path. A function that is tending to +infinite, next step is to tend to -infinite. Think of a path shaped as a circle, then of its cosinus variation, then you understand... ;)

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #76

Keep making the biggest problem of Linux bigger, please... Yeah, this problem is "fragmentation", and it is not solved with "simplicity".

I think that distributions patching software is especially problematic -- whether you consider it a symptom or a cause of fragmentation.

Distributions exist to provide software that all fits and works together (e.g. providing the correct versions of dependencies). Sometimes patching is necessary to make things work.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #76

Keep making the biggest problem of Linux bigger, please... Yeah, this problem is "fragmentation", and it is not solved with "simplicity".

I think not to worry about it, it will probably die when the maintainer gets bored of it after a few years. You don't have to use it. And in the meantime, somebody gets to learn to more by doing their own LFS.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #83

In which world replacing removing Wayland in favour of X is considered KISS? We seem to have very different understanding of KISS with those folks.

X is widly used since 30 years. Its configuration (and security model) is well documented (xorg.conf). It is as simple as launching the X server using a simple command line and being able to connect any client (even remote) thanks to a single environment variable (DISPLAY).

How do you launch a wayland server and how do you forward "display" (ssh -X or -Y) to launch a remote application ?

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of distro is exactly the point of FOSS & Linux imo. Diversity of ideas breeds innovation and competition, we need that. Otherwise linux will at some point go the way of browsers, with everything effectively owned by google/microsoft/whatever and a big fat artificial lock-in.

No, that's not the point of FOSS. Having a right doesn't mean that you have to exercise it for the sake of it. When I use/advocate Linux and other FOSS apps it's because ultimately I'll be able to fix any issue that they have, or that nobody will be able to take it the software away from me. But I'm not creating patches for every piece of software I use. We developers should grow past that point, the reason why so ma…

Really, there are de-facto standards. If you are a big corporate enterprise, like a bank, the standard is going to be RHEL. If you're conservative organization but don't want to pay for licenses or support, you're probably going to go with a RHEL clone like CentOS, or worse, Oracle Linux. If you're a trendy Web 2.1 startup you'll probably go with Ubuntu or containers of Alpine Linux etc.

EDIT: source - been doing Linux for corporates, big and small since 1999.

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #76

Keep making the biggest problem of Linux bigger, please... Yeah, this problem is "fragmentation", and it is not solved with "simplicity".

This kind of distro is exactly the point of FOSS & Linux imo. Diversity of ideas breeds innovation and competition, we need that. Otherwise linux will at some point go the way of browsers, with everything effectively owned by google/microsoft/whatever and a big fat artificial lock-in.

You are right ! diversity is the good move, that is how life decided to grow, by diversifications. Ok, it consumes loads of time, but the result is without point of thinking. M$ did the opposite in '80, and is not quite winning nowdays... Just a question of time and experimentations ;)

Re: Kiss – A Linux distribution with a focus on “less is more”

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post #4

Isn’t that a bit of a sexist logo...?

I think so, yes, though I do think it's nicely drawn and not unartistic (e.g. the kiss being implied). In my opinion it's offensive, for a few reasons.

First is that the woman's pose derives from images of 'feeble' femininity (e.g. old Marilyn Monroe films; sexy, innocent, willing). I don't think there's any need to hark back to such absurd stereotypes.

Second, it assumes my preferred aesthetic isn't, for example, big bearded men. They are equally capable of giving or blowing a kiss. The logo could have been more generic, if it was appealing to the intimate.

Third, I don't really like sexualised or intimate imagery mixed with productivity tools. It's jarring and distracting.

At the end of the day, it's just a logo, though it made me switch off.

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