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The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by VonGuard »

cwkoss wrote: post #2

"Assange's extradition hearing is scheduled for February 2020, and if Lamo had still been alive, the prosecution would likely not have needed to compel Manning's testimony;" It seems Lamo being deceased in a necessary pretext for detaining Manning, and so perhaps the IC community knocked him off to keep her imprisoned.

Lamo was a twitchy little fuck with lots of enemies. He was a miserable person, always unhappy, plagued with mental illness, and a past spotted with fucked up relationships. The only people I have ever heard speak kindly of him are the press.

I'd known the guy since 1999, and even back then, in the hacker circles, he was making enemies and pissing people off just by being a bad person in general... Seems like a text book suicide candidate, or at least, a self-abuse through substances type. I mean, his parents threw him out in his teens...

Last time I posted this here I got downvoted to hell and back. Feel free to do the same.

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by duncan-donuts »

dopamean wrote: post #6
quaquaqua1 wrote: post #3

I independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP

> due to the decomposition of the body when they found it This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?

Based on all of the true crime stuff I watch/listen to...don’t we have a pretty good idea how long decomposition takes under many different circumstances?

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by quotz »

VonGuard wrote: post #11
cwkoss wrote: post #2

"Assange's extradition hearing is scheduled for February 2020, and if Lamo had still been alive, the prosecution would likely not have needed to compel Manning's testimony;" It seems Lamo being deceased in a necessary pretext for detaining Manning, and so perhaps the IC community knocked him off to keep her imprisoned.

Lamo was a twitchy little fuck with lots of enemies. He was a miserable person, always unhappy, plagued with mental illness, and a past spotted with fucked up relationships. The only people I have ever heard speak kindly of him are the press. I'd known the guy since 1999, and even back then, in the hacker circles, he was making enemies and pissing people off just by being a bad person in general... Seems like a text…

I watched an interview with him and what you say definitely feels true to me. I mean that guy snitched on the good guys, and Chelsea Manning was a really good friend of his. Who the fuck does that? You can really see that he was plaqued by mental issues....

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by 1024core »

quotz wrote: post #13
VonGuard wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lamo was a twitchy little fuck with lots of enemies. He was a miserable person, always unhappy, plagued with mental illness, and a past spotted with fucked up relationships. The only people I have ever heard speak kindly of him are the press. I'd known the guy since 1999, and even back then, in the hacker circles, he was making enemies and pissing people off just by being a bad person in general... Seems like a text…

I watched an interview with him and what you say definitely feels true to me. I mean that guy snitched on the good guys, and Chelsea Manning was a really good friend of his. Who the fuck does that? You can really see that he was plaqued by mental issues....

The article mentions, in the passing, that Llamo probably thought it was a trap by the Feds, who he thought were constantly surveilling him.

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Post by thrower123 »

eganist wrote: post #15
thrower123 wrote: post #10

There are an awful lot of people turning up dead with connections to pending investigations and court cases lately...

This kind of conspiratorial speculation isn't really appropriate here.

It's probably coincidental, but it's definitely weird. One of the Spacey accusers also died under unknown circumstances this week.

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Post by quaquaqua1 »

dopamean wrote: post #6
quaquaqua1 wrote: post #3

I independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP

> due to the decomposition of the body when they found it This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?

I'd have to go back and look at the report but I believe he was dead for around a week before being autopsied. I believe that the examiner said it was not possible to confirm or deny any marks on his skin that would have signified external trauma, such as that from a syringe or something if Lamo was "assassinated covertly".

In all honesty, Lamo did a lot of drugs in his earlier years and in his later years he was overweight... I suffer from similar kidney problems at just age 27 so it is honestly possible that he simply died of natural kidney failure from our supremely processed American diet.

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Post by gtirloni »

quaquaqua1 wrote: post #18
dopamean wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> due to the decomposition of the body when they found it This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?

I'd have to go back and look at the report but I believe he was dead for around a week before being autopsied. I believe that the examiner said it was not possible to confirm or deny any marks on his skin that would have signified external trauma, such as that from a syringe or something if Lamo was "assassinated covertly". In all honesty, Lamo did a lot of drugs in his earlier years and in his later years he was ove…

How fast could kidney failure have reached a critical point? Couldn't he have sought medical assistance?

Re: The Mysterious Death of the Hacker Who Turned in Chelsea Manning

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

dopamean wrote: post #6
quaquaqua1 wrote: post #3

I independently investigated Lamo's death. The most likely cause of death is related to kidney failure as per the autopsy posted of the medical examiner's website. Whether the cause of the kidney failure was related to his diet or to some external actor is unable to be determined due to the decomposition of the body when they found it. RIP

> due to the decomposition of the body when they found it This gives me the impression that he was dead for quite a while before he was found. If that's true how do we have a precise date for when he died?

For what it's worth, per the article: "...the manager of Shadybrook Senior Apartments found Lamo's body. He was lying on a pile of clothes in the bedroom and when she saw the blood pooling under his fingernails, she pulled a medical alert cord in the apartment."

So I would guess he wasn't that far along, relatively speaking, if it wasn't immediately obvious at a glance.

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