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US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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The fact that people are comparing countries like Austria and Switzerland, tiny tiny German places, to a country that loves to readd the same piece of wood 20 times to it's GDP speaks for itself.

Any statistic pushed out by the US government is as irrelevant as Kim Jong Uns personal yachts interior design material. Anyone taking official US statistics serious should get a purple star on their chest reading "Mental defect"

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

#42
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One of the more baffling statistics I’ve seen lately is that consumer debt continues to increase and credit card interest rates are at multi year highs despite the fed funds rate being at historical lows. Things don’t add up.

Maybe creditors are having trouble finding attractive returns, so they are lending to riskier individuals. Similar to the 'reach for yield' phenomenon in the bond market.

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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post #37

One of the more baffling statistics I’ve seen lately is that consumer debt continues to increase and credit card interest rates are at multi year highs despite the fed funds rate being at historical lows. Things don’t add up.

Mortgage and auto loan debt are probably significantly larger components of consumer debt than credit card debt.

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

#44
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you still have plenty of homesless and destitute. Pretty sad that you can't look after the most vunerable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes

I mean, it's not like they were wrong about that. I don't know what to conclude from this other than most of history is terrible and the present often isn't so great either. Until we live in a utopia, there will be no shortage of targets for whataboutism.

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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I suspect using the median net assets instead of the average would lead to vastly different results.

Actually the 20% poorest in the US has it better than the average EU middle class. Ref: https://www.google.com/amp/s/fee.org/articles/the-poorest-20...

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Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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How does this reconcile with the data listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_pe... ? That shows $530,244 for Switzerland and $403,974 for US. Difference in sampling or does the wiki one not reflect net wealth?

Wikipedia uses Credit Suisse and this news uses Allianz.

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

#47
post #37

One of the more baffling statistics I’ve seen lately is that consumer debt continues to increase and credit card interest rates are at multi year highs despite the fed funds rate being at historical lows. Things don’t add up.

Sounds like the credit card companies are expecting a vanishing fraction of the people for whom credit card interest is relevant to actually pay them back...

(At least among my family, common knowledge is to treat credit cards like debit cards or charge cards - make the full payment, every time, and if you can't make the full payment you shouldn't have made the purchase)

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how they calculated consumption, rather than income or net wealth. That's a more honest way of comparing poverty in different countries.

I'm not sure it's an entirely fair way to define poverty. In many parts of Europe you can have a relatively high standard of living without consuming (or even owning) all that much. For example, you can have a high standard of living without owning a car (and all the 'consumption' that goes along with that), in cities that have good public transport, and a good infrastructure/environment for walking and cycling. In m…

But if consumption capacity was equal in Europe, that consumption would shift to something else, such as food and entertainment. People in New York City don’t consume less because they don’t own a car—they spend more money eating out, etc.

And Europeans are hardly ascetics. It’s fair to assume that in both places, if people had more means to consume they would.

Re: US takes 'richest nation on earth' crown from Switzerland

#49

TIL Switzerland is the richest nation on earth. If I was going to guess, I probably would've guessed Saudi Arabia or Luxembourg.

Visit Zurich. Prices are ~2x what they are in my (fairly pricy already) area in the US. That's the direct consequence of high median income: businesses charge what the market will bear.
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