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Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by Barrin92 »

gojomo wrote: post #8

So many NYC-based journalists who love to spit all over "Silicon Valley". Is there room for a TechCrunch-like publication with a more Silicon Valley-influenced editorial bent? (There's already a massive surplus of sneering Brooklyn-based scolds in "tech media".)

>Is there room for a TechCrunch-like publication with a more Silicon Valley-influenced editorial bent?

are you actually asking for someone to purposefully preach to the quire? The function of journalism is to speak truth to power, you think facebook et al need any further help? I think they actually paid the telegraph for a series of agitprop articles, you might want to check those out.

Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by katabatic »

rdlecler1 wrote: post #3

So the author would rather see each state/country implement it’s own laws so that a small startup needs to ensure they comply with hundreds of regulatory jurisdictions... awesome.

How is that different than, well -- anything? In the United States all 50 states can make their own laws; it's a fundamental part of our legal system.

As for every country making their own laws - well, yeah? That's what sovereignty is all about?

Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by bpodgursky »

rdlecler1 wrote: post #3

So the author would rather see each state/country implement it’s own laws so that a small startup needs to ensure they comply with hundreds of regulatory jurisdictions... awesome.

Yeah... CCPA and GDPR have proved that large enterprises will do just fine, because Amazon can always afford enough lawyers to handle regulatory overhead and confusion across territories.

The startups end up either (1) ignoring the laws or (2) giving up.

Good job EU, if making the FAANGs the only companies with the clout to hold customer data or break into new markets was your primary goal.

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Post by social_quotient »

buildzr wrote: post #5
rdlecler1 wrote: post #3

So the author would rather see each state/country implement it’s own laws so that a small startup needs to ensure they comply with hundreds of regulatory jurisdictions... awesome.

I'm just going to ignore them all until my actual operating jurisdiction implements one, I'm not beholden to the laws of another country, let alone a specific state in it.

I’m not sure this is entirely true. Texas for example has some pretty big arms (long-arm statute) when conducting business in or with a resident or Texas business.

Maybe helpful - http://euro.ecom.cmu.edu/program/law/08-732/Jurisdiction/Lon...

Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by throawayuk55po »

We need to have a conversation about jurisdictions in the digital age. The way governments have decided that having a website accessible in a country makes you liable to respect the law of this country is a convulted and hacky notion that has been accepted way too fast.

The physical establishment rule was the only sound approach. The fact that some countries started to lose shouldn't have allowed them to rewrite the rules (especially in such a hacky manner).

Can you imagine owning a grocery store and having to ask every customer their nationality to check which law you must follow to do business with them? Then multiply this hell by 10 and soon 1000 considering new laws created left and right and you have the environment these dishonest politicians have created.

Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by javagram »

katabatic wrote: post #12
rdlecler1 wrote: post #3

So the author would rather see each state/country implement it’s own laws so that a small startup needs to ensure they comply with hundreds of regulatory jurisdictions... awesome.

How is that different than, well -- anything? In the United States all 50 states can make their own laws; it's a fundamental part of our legal system. As for every country making their own laws - well, yeah? That's what sovereignty is all about?

In cases where the Feds have decided there should be a uniform standard, states can’t make their own law. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_preemption

Re: Silicon Valley is terrified of California’s privacy law

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Post by matty22 »

milesskorpen wrote: post #4

Does anyone know the real implications of the CCPA for things like Sift Science, Google's Recaptcha, and maybe even Cloudflare? All of these are based on many companies contributing information about users to create profiles which curb abuse. And Sift/Google/etc. get commercial benefit from this data sharing, which might trigger the CCPA. But you can't give bad actors the ability to opt out of this kind of data shari…

If Recaptcha gets the ax due to CCPA, the internet will be better off for it.

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throawayuk55po wrote: post #16

We need to have a conversation about jurisdictions in the digital age. The way governments have decided that having a website accessible in a country makes you liable to respect the law of this country is a convulted and hacky notion that has been accepted way too fast. The physical establishment rule was the only sound approach. The fact that some countries started to lose shouldn't have allowed them to rewrite the…

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