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If diversity is so dear to you, you must be up in arms about family based immigration, which is much bigger piece of the 1 million GCs and its not that diverse there!
That's a multiplying factor on top of H-1Bs, so it makes sense to address the "problem" upstream.
As an immigrant myself I don't support this bill as this means we will have more green card holders from just two countries, India and China, and hence less diversity.
Also add to your comment, every time this bill comes up in the news, it says people from India and China will benefit from it. But the reality is, only people from India will so because currently the wait time for people born in China is about 4 years, after the bill, for the next 10 years, no GC will be given to people born in China because the long waitlist from India. In fact, no one from China I know supports thi…
For both H.R.1044 and S.386, if they pass, people not born in India will wait for years before getting the green card. For example, currently, people born in China (note, it matters only where you born, not what citizenship you currently hold), would wait about 4 years to get green card (after they start the process), but once one of these bills passes, they would have to wait for 10 years to get it. You would probab…
Not true. Anyone who doesn’t have an i140 with a priority date of 2012 or so will have to wait years for a green card. Including people born in India.
If you were born anywhere in the world, and applied for a green card in the next month, your wait time would not be different- Indian or not.
As an immigrant myself I don't support this bill as this means we will have more green card holders from just two countries, India and China, and hence less diversity.
Scenario 1: 10 Indians, 10 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans
Scenario 2: 100 Indians, 100 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans
Both seem pretty diverse to me.
As an immigrant myself I don't support this bill as this means we will have more green card holders from just two countries, India and China, and hence less diversity.
This is a super weird way to think about it. Scenario 1: 10 Indians, 10 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans Scenario 2: 100 Indians, 100 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans Both seem pretty diverse to me.
All of you who are commenting on how it's unfair that this bill will mean most green cards over the next few years will go to Indians, how is it fair that Indians currently have an 50+ year queue for a green card? As a personal anecdote, one of my reports (at a FAANG company) has a double Masters (CS and Math) from a top 5 US school, and is a star performer, and without this bill, he has no hope of getting a green ca…
> It eliminates the per-country cap, which meters issuance of green cards so that they are distributed to applicants from all countries I'm not an especially pro-diversity person, but won't this just mean Indians will get 99% of green cards with immigrants from all other countries fighting over the remaining 1%? I don't know if that's a good thing necessarily, change my view. This perception is just based on my own c…
>This perception is just based on my own company, in which I (an American) seem to be in a tiny minority compared to Indian H1-Bs. The question is, which of these two seems better to you? * Someone comes to the US, works 10 years on an H1-B, and then goes back to India afterwards. * Someones comes to the US, works 10 years on an H1-B, get's a green card and stays in the US.
It's about who gets the cards in the first place. If India can undercut it'll just be more indians instead of having diverse backgrounds from around the world. As diverse as India could be there are other reasons to pull people from other countries fairly.
This seems exclusively to increase Indian immigration rates and not actually improving diversity of green cards given out. (If you want to play identity politics)
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This is a super weird way to think about it. Scenario 1: 10 Indians, 10 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans Scenario 2: 100 Indians, 100 Chinese, 10 French, 10 Mexicans Both seem pretty diverse to me.
What do you define as diverse? You wouldn't call a diet that consisted of 90% rice and beans, and 10% whatever else diverse. As opposed to a diet that consisted of 25% rice, 25% beans, 25% leafy greens, 25% meat.
Unhealthy? Likely. Unfair? Definitely.
The current bill tries to go closer to fairness by weighting based on population.
What if there are only 3 countries in the world, US, Lithuania, and Rest? Would you want 50 Lithuanians and 50 rest and call it diverse?
All of you who are commenting on how it's unfair that this bill will mean most green cards over the next few years will go to Indians, how is it fair that Indians currently have an 50+ year queue for a green card? As a personal anecdote, one of my reports (at a FAANG company) has a double Masters (CS and Math) from a top 5 US school, and is a star performer, and without this bill, he has no hope of getting a green ca…
I wasn't aware that we had a national obligation to be fair to Indians. Especially since Indian tech bodyshops have made a mockery of the entire H1B system.