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Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by lexapro »

dx034 wrote: post #52
csydas wrote: post #50

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Neither :) You're missing an adjective from your observation: qualified. For any given position, even when you're pretty specific on the requirements, you will get an onslaught of applicants who have absolutely no business trying to apply for said position, but they do it anyways just because it vaguely matches a skillset they have and they need a job. This isn't a criticism of such persons; it's foolish for people t…

I believe it's also due to unspecific job ads. Ads for "experienced developers" could require anything from 2-20 years of job experience. Sometimes job titles give it away but quite often, candidates won't really be able to judge if they're actually qualified.

To be fair, you can be a fairly experienced developer with just two years of job experience, especially if it's a niche.

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by ensignavenger »

csydas wrote: post #50
vectorEQ wrote: post #44

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i just find it funny that theres posts about shortages of it people, and posts about a quarter of a million ppl applying to one company. who's lying. :D

Neither :) You're missing an adjective from your observation: qualified. For any given position, even when you're pretty specific on the requirements, you will get an onslaught of applicants who have absolutely no business trying to apply for said position, but they do it anyways just because it vaguely matches a skillset they have and they need a job. This isn't a criticism of such persons; it's foolish for people t…

If they are on unemployment or receiving welfare benefits, they may be required to apply for a minimum number of jobs... in which case if they want to stay in their current situation, picking jobs you are obviously not qualified for is a way to meet the requirements without much risk of getting a job. Of course, if you do happen to get the job, at least its a much better one than you thought you could get!

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by WarDores »

growlist wrote: post #58
csydas wrote: post #50

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Neither :) You're missing an adjective from your observation: qualified. For any given position, even when you're pretty specific on the requirements, you will get an onslaught of applicants who have absolutely no business trying to apply for said position, but they do it anyways just because it vaguely matches a skillset they have and they need a job. This isn't a criticism of such persons; it's foolish for people t…

qualified* (*and will accept what we're paying)

This. "We can't find a qualified applicant at 75% of market rate, guess we need more H1-B visas". No wonder wages are stagnant.

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by hourislate »

ahnus6 wrote: post #87
hourislate wrote: post #69

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>Entry level programmer jobs in Texas will get 2000 applications There are some major Corporations here in DFW, some that have hired 1000's of H1B's (Car companies, Airlines, etc). It doesn't surprise me that Americans are desperate for work.

What does hiring qualified h1b visa holders have to do with anything? The desperate Americans are not qualified for the job. If they were it would be in the company’s best interest to hire the American. The h1b program requires paying a local market wage. Even if you don’t believe it does the effect would be to just lower wages, it would still be better to hire the qualified American at reduced wages rather than spon…

>What does hiring qualified h1b visa holders have to do with anything?

Because as surprising as this may sound to you there are plenty of qualified talent already in the USA that can't compete with the lower wages companies can pay H1B employees. I see plenty of H1B employees who will literally eat shit from management over the fear of losing their status.

I'm not against bringing in hard to find talent that we don't have, what I'm against is bringing in cheap labor to replace US Citizens/IT Workforce which is the norm with these companies.

Here is a link breaking it down for Texas.

https://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/map/2016/TX.pdf

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by hourislate »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #88
hourislate wrote: post #69

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>Entry level programmer jobs in Texas will get 2000 applications There are some major Corporations here in DFW, some that have hired 1000's of H1B's (Car companies, Airlines, etc). It doesn't surprise me that Americans are desperate for work.

So what. F-1s, OPTs, H1B, are people too and as a rule are taking an enormous risk in life uprooting to a new country and a different language. Most of them have advanced degrees. Hundreds of them apply to open jobs too. They are human beings, and there are a lot of human beings - regardless of arbitrary imaginary lines that divide us - who are looking for work.

So you believe they have more rights to work in the USA than US citizens? A US Citizen can't even apply for the job the company slated for an H1B applicant.

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by NullPrefix »

cj wrote: post #70
cdolan wrote: post #54

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Not to hijack, but do you or your spouse have an opinion on the WSJ story about companies intensely curating their reviews (maybe even paying/threatening the employees and/or Glassdoor)? I noticed a local company I follow had fluctuating review counts between 30-45. I wrote a web scraper to see if reviews were being taken down, and for this company, over 20 1 or 2 star reviews have been taken down, but any new 5 star…

It’s worth mentioning that sometimes there are legitimate reasons for removing reviews. Our company had a slew of negative reviews suddenly. Upon closer look, the reviewers were working in positions we had never employed anyone for. They were posting about an office they worked at in Israel (we are in the USA). Turns out there was another startup in Israel who had a very similar name to ours. That company closed a bi…

>Our company had a slew of negative reviews suddenly. Upon closer look

Did you scrutinized positive reviews the same way or just glanced them over and went "yeah, five stars, this is good"?

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by growlist »

dx87 wrote: post #89
meuk wrote: post #72

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This seems to be very relevant. I have double BSc and MSc degrees in STEM fields and am still struggling to find a proper job. On my first job I made less than 2k (for 4 days a week, but still). I've had offers which were even lower as well. I've seen people in other fields with a lot less education do a lot better. It really makes me sceptic about the shortage of developers in Europe. If there really would be a shor…

2k a week for 4 days a week sounds amazing, especially for a first job. I'd definitely take a pay cut for that deal.

No doubt that'll be 2k/month!

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by throwaway5752 »

hourislate wrote: post #95
throwaway5752 wrote: post #88

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So what. F-1s, OPTs, H1B, are people too and as a rule are taking an enormous risk in life uprooting to a new country and a different language. Most of them have advanced degrees. Hundreds of them apply to open jobs too. They are human beings, and there are a lot of human beings - regardless of arbitrary imaginary lines that divide us - who are looking for work.

So you believe they have more rights to work in the USA than US citizens? A US Citizen can't even apply for the job the company slated for an H1B applicant.

"So you believe they have more rights to work in the USA than US citizens"

What are you even asking? Do you know how many hoops they have to go through to get an H1B in the first place, and how many conditions they have once they are here working on one? Do you understand what it's like to be a month or so away from being deported if you get fired and can't find a new job, and living with the pressure every day?

To answer your question: no they don't, and the situation reflects that. Why did you capitalize "Citizen"?

Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by nikofeyn »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #88
hourislate wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Entry level programmer jobs in Texas will get 2000 applications There are some major Corporations here in DFW, some that have hired 1000's of H1B's (Car companies, Airlines, etc). It doesn't surprise me that Americans are desperate for work.

So what. F-1s, OPTs, H1B, are people too and as a rule are taking an enormous risk in life uprooting to a new country and a different language. Most of them have advanced degrees. Hundreds of them apply to open jobs too. They are human beings, and there are a lot of human beings - regardless of arbitrary imaginary lines that divide us - who are looking for work.

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Re: 200k people applied for jobs at Amazon in a single week

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

cdolan wrote: post #54
rshnotsecure wrote: post #36

This is not unusual. My spouse works for Glassdoor. Entry level programmer jobs in Texas will get 2000 applications (not bots) within about 72 hours. Desperate people from all over the US. I think at one time the advice to “play the numbers game” was correct for online job apps. Not anymore. Even more saddening, Glassdoor uses a temp/test sample job ad. It’s for cat sitting. $15/hr. That will get hundreds of apps in…

Not to hijack, but do you or your spouse have an opinion on the WSJ story about companies intensely curating their reviews (maybe even paying/threatening the employees and/or Glassdoor)? I noticed a local company I follow had fluctuating review counts between 30-45. I wrote a web scraper to see if reviews were being taken down, and for this company, over 20 1 or 2 star reviews have been taken down, but any new 5 star…

This sounds like a great weekend project idea: a website that captures removed reviews from Glassdoor and computes a real rating.
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