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Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by Tilks »

antod wrote: post #69
Tilks wrote: post #62

People seem to generally have very positive comments on DataDog - maybe it's me but I've generally found it frustrating. The sampling and retention rates for tracing mean I rarely see the errors that actually matter. I dislike not having an actual date/time picker in the APM section too. Either way, I've had a worse experience with Cisco products so good for them saying no.

> People seem to generally have very positive comments on DataDog - maybe it's me but I've generally found it frustrating. We hadn't used DataDog, but after our whole team kept getting endless semi personalised buddy buddy like spam from their sales people, we all swore off ever even contemplating using them.

I'd forgotten about that! They sent me pictues of sad dogs to try and convince me to use them. It was a bit strange, and at times passive aggressive.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by OJFord »

onion2k wrote: post #41
zenlikethat wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What else are you paying $7B for if not the people? If I’m an acquiring company, I’m not optimizing for creating a very wealthy team that will leave and create another company. I want that team to work for me.

What else are you paying $7B for if not the people? Access to customers. User data. To remove a competitor from the market. Patents. Because the CEOs bonus depends on market share. To enter a new regional market. There are lots of reasons to buy a company. Aquihiring the team is just one.

And it's surely a risky reason to be the only (or main) one, you should probably assume a good chunk will leave immediately, and another chunk after 6m-1y, I'd have thought.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by onion2k »

OJFord wrote: post #73
onion2k wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What else are you paying $7B for if not the people? Access to customers. User data. To remove a competitor from the market. Patents. Because the CEOs bonus depends on market share. To enter a new regional market. There are lots of reasons to buy a company. Aquihiring the team is just one.

And it's surely a risky reason to be the only (or main) one, you should probably assume a good chunk will leave immediately, and another chunk after 6m-1y, I'd have thought.

Maybe, but you can easily guard against that by doing things like offering stock that vests over n years instead of cash.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by sushid »

skrebbel wrote: post #55
aggie wrote: post #9

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A core team of pre-millionaires won't necessarily, or even likely, work the same as a core team of post-millionaires.

Offtopic, but I'm not sure I've ever read a more American phrase than "pre-millionaire".

I mean a core team sitting on “paper” money (in the sense it’s very close to being liquid) sounds very much pre-millionaire to me.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

Swizec wrote: post #25
Railsify wrote: post #15

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I would expect this exactly. Why work at all when I can drive my Ferrari collection, all damn day.

> Why work at all when I can drive my Ferrari collection, all damn day. That's fun for a week, maybe even a month, then you'd get bored. Humans need purpose and we like structure. Complete freedom terrifies and unsettles us. Source: All my life I wanted nothing but to have enough cash in bank to take a year off and do whatever. When I got it ... at first I panicked, then I considered the boundless possibilities, then…

> A modest fuck you fund that makes me feel better and gives me that sense of Oh yeah, if I stop liking my situation, I can afford to do whatever I want for a year or two without compromising my lifestyle

I think this is the main goal that people pursuing wealth want to achieve; moving from HAVING to work to WANTING to work. I mean I'm at a stage myself where I can comfortably take a few months, probably up to a year off using my savings; it's making me a lot less attached to my current job, and makes me look a bit more critically at it and at what else is on the market. And it makes me consider working less hours or taking less pay in favor of more enjoyment in my job. (no luck yet in that regard, lol)

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by dejv »

kelnos wrote: post #53
Swizec wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why work at all when I can drive my Ferrari collection, all damn day. That's fun for a week, maybe even a month, then you'd get bored. Humans need purpose and we like structure. Complete freedom terrifies and unsettles us. Source: All my life I wanted nothing but to have enough cash in bank to take a year off and do whatever. When I got it ... at first I panicked, then I considered the boundless possibilities, then…

I dunno, man, I think everyone's different. I'm planning on retiring (early) within the next few years. Obviously I won't know for sure until I've been retired for a bit, but I can't imagine ever wanting to have a job again. I enjoy my current job, but it's still a job. I have people to answer to, politics to deal with, work that I dislike that I have to do in order to do the work that I do like, frustrating people w…

I am with you, I don't know why people are so scared about not going to work.

Due to some lucky events I was able to maintain some fairly large custom ERP system. After few inital years all the big problems were fixed and I was keeping eye on it for next 10 years. In reality it meant about 1 or 2 hours of work every (other) month and I was paid enough to be confortable, not that much, but enough to live the life I wanted. Kind of universal income reality.

What do you think? Did I missed going to the office? Was I depressed because I haven't been climbing corporate ladder? Nah, it was awesome.

I spent few years traveling, I worked on more then 50 projects (SW and HW), I tried to launch few startups and helped couple VC funded companies, I've even bought farm and and was fortunate to spend a few years with my newly born kids without constantly thinking about some deadlines that was not imposed by me. I never felt like I was wasting my life, quite oposite: I had so much time for exploring various projects and learn new skill and I didn't need to think about will-that-make-it-me-some-money type of questions.

I am currently working normal job (well, it remote and 4-days a week, but still) writing software for banks, telcos and other corporations and it just didn't filled me with purpose or self-actualisation.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by mrweasel »

dev_dull wrote: post #34
nodesocket wrote: post #12

I am very keen on picking up some $DDOG shares tomorrow when it IPO'S. As part of my DevOps consultancy I recommend DataDog to nearly all my clients. They check all the boxes in one unified platform: [X] Server / cloud resource monitoring and alerting [ https://www.datadoghq.com/dashboarding/ ] [X] Logging [ https://docs.datadoghq.com/logs/ ] [X] APM (application performance) [ https://docs.datadoghq.com/tracing/ ] […

The licensing costs were never feasible for me. What size shops do you typically consult for?

They can give you discounts that makes licensing costs acceptable, if you have something like 10,000 devices.

The pricing isn't unreasonable, but it adds up pretty quickly if you have lots of devices. The issue isn't unique to Datadog, other similar service have the same pricing structure and price levels.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by yardie »

kelnos wrote: post #56
salmaanp wrote: post #51

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opendns, duo, meraki, appdynamics?

Only one anecdotal data point, but: We use OpenDNS (now Cisco Umbrella) at work. I'm often hit with Umbrella pages denying access to random websites. The usual message is that the site "distributes malware", but none of the sites it blocks actually deserve that block. Our security team says they can manually add exceptions, but they have no visibility into why Umbrella blocks particular sites. We used Meraki WiFi APs…

We use another firewall solution and it happens just as frequently with some sites getting caught up in our malware filter. The initial bad sites lists are originally crowdsourced, I believe.

I've used Meraki, Aruba, Ruckus, and Cisco Aironet and have had no problems with any of them. They all have a duty cycle and radios don't last indefinitely. Usually what I find is someone brings in an old Linksys G-band AP and that squelches an area, the older radios are a lot noisier.

Re: Cisco Is Said to Have Offered $7B-Plus for DataDog

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Post by peterwwillis »

Wow. They got offered over 7 Billion dollars, in the face of a looming recession, strong industry competitors, and an uncertain IPO. They're willing to gamble their future, just because they want more than 7 Billion dollars. I guess when you're offered that much money, it's hard not to get greedy.
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