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Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:10 PM UTC

trevyn wrote: post #368

chopin wrote: post #331

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But a modem won't help if it isn't connected to anything.

On-chip antennas are a thing!

I can imagine myself 10 years from now standing over a $500 chip with a power drill, nervously following a tutorial telling me what exact spot I have to drive the drill head through to disable the antenna without destroying any of the surrounding circuitry...

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by 0-_-0 » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:20 PM UTC

Kaiyou wrote: post #398

m-p-3 wrote: post #265

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As long as I can keep the TV offline to operate it I'm fine with it. The day it needs to be online to work is where I'll be seriously pissed enough that I'll return it without hesitation.

How can you be sure it's offline? Possibly it has wireless capabilities that work without your consent..

You wrap it in tin foil

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by Kaiyou » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:21 PM UTC

0-_-0 wrote: post #432

Kaiyou wrote: post #398

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How can you be sure it's offline? Possibly it has wireless capabilities that work without your consent..

You wrap it in tin foil

It's a TV, wrapped in tinfoil you won't be able to see anything anymore.

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by 0-_-0 » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:30 PM UTC

odiroot wrote: post #355

pacala wrote: post #119

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Five years from now, 5G will be widely deployed, with a connection density of 1M/sqkm, 1000 times larger than 4G. The TV will connect directly to the 5G network without asking for permission. For your convenience [TM].

We're just gonna start wrapping our TVs in tinfoil, I guess.

If we can believe Star Trek, transparent aluminum foil is the way to go!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials#Tr...

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by user56785678 » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:33 PM UTC

My LG TV webOS YouTube app, generates some hard to hear sounds when menus and content is navigated. Even thought I am not logged in in YouTube app, I suspect they can be captured by an Android device nearby and correlated with that device user. The apps that have the login data already can share whatever they like. There was a story some years ago when even shared local media names were shared by some TVs. If you have a device connected to network, you can be sure it will share whatever it can, malice intent or not.

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by ses1984 » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:36 PM UTC

Kaiyou wrote: post #398

m-p-3 wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As long as I can keep the TV offline to operate it I'm fine with it. The day it needs to be online to work is where I'll be seriously pissed enough that I'll return it without hesitation.

How can you be sure it's offline? Possibly it has wireless capabilities that work without your consent..

No open wifi networks nearby.

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by 0-_-0 » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:51 PM UTC

Kaiyou wrote: post #433

0-_-0 wrote: post #432

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wrap it in tin foil

It's a TV, wrapped in tinfoil you won't be able to see anything anymore.

You could, but you need Star Trek materials:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials#Tr...

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by bsenftner » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:52 PM UTC

It's been this way for a while. That is why I get 4K Monitors, not a "smart TV". If a monitor has anything beyond a hdmi jack, I skip it.

Cars are going this way too. The current model year has all car manufacturers producing these ruined vehicles. Hold what you got, or buy used until this bullshit is regulated away.

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by bsenftner » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:55 PM UTC

ghostpepper wrote: post #312

I would love to update my 10 year old 1080p Philips non-smart TV to a 55" or so 4K HDR screen but I don't want any of the smart features. Does anyone know of any manufacturers selling high end "dumb" TVs? For now I'm comfortable using my appleTV but I like the fact that I can disconnect it at any time. I want a TV that will simply display whatever signal it receives without any connectivity required.

Some Atyme models are 4K monitors only, not even wifi... I have 5 of them.

Re: Smart TVs sending sensitive user data to Netflix and Facebook

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Post by leokennis » Thu, Sep 19, 2019, 12:56 PM UTC

throw03172019 wrote: post #36

I disabled WiFi on my Samsung TV after they were injecting ads into the home screen. Spend $800 to get ads served in their shitty/slow UI.

I hear all these complaints about ads and it is very strange to me. I have a 2018 Samsung Smart TV (with buyilt in Netflix, Apple TV etc. apps), connected to the internet (no VPN, pihole etc.). I live in The Netherlands. On setup I agreed to all kinds of stuff, except the voice stuff (so I cannot speak to my TV).

I have never seen a single ad or anything remotely like it. The only thing is the remote has dedicated buttons for Amazon something and Rakuten (both not available in my country) and Netflix.