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> please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The title of this submission should be "CENSORED: How the M&G got taken down". Linode aren't the bad guys here and the title is flat-out misleading.
Was previously 'Linode Shut Down a Newspaper'
Not that Linode is bad or anything; I'm super happy with them myself. But the way a company deals with abuse complaints (including takedowns) reflects the volume of these that they have to deal with, and the blowback they've experienced by overreacting.
If the provider is tiny, then takedowns are rare and interesting. They'll examine each one based on its individual merits. Though small companies don't have the resources to dump a lot of money into making things right, so they may just take the cheap route and kick you out.
If the provider is reasonably large, they'll get these all the time, and they'll have an automated and inflexible solution for dealing with them. It'll be heavily weighted on minimizing the cost to the provider, and will tend to overreact just to be on the safe side.
If the provider is huge (like, top N kind of huge) then they'll have started with the automated overreaction solution, but then they'll have had some massive disaster because their automated abuse system took down a client like Sony or the New York Times or something. So then the'll have dialed back their abuse system a bit and made it more expensive to run, but less prone to being destructive.
Did they file a counter suit for plagiarism? What happens when DMCA notice meets another one? Welcome to Bad Law.
If you’re not in the US, avoid US technology providers subject to US law. This publication would likely be better suited using a provider out of Europe.
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Solution: Host your stuff outside of country, don't use cloudflare or other US based services
sorry, no. this is a shit non-solution. first, 97% of our customers are US-based. hosting elsewhere would destroy the site performance we worked hard to maximize. second, we're a us-based company, subject to US laws, so if the ISP doesnt take down our server, some other legal means will.
It's time to move cloud out of US.
I'm kind of amazed at how effective this digital reputation management technique is: * publish an exact copy of the offending content on a web site and include something that looks like a datetime which is earlier than the publication date of the offending content * tell the web site's ISP and other service providers that they're violating copyright, pointing to your fake content and using the providers' copyright-vi…
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we've gone through this with linode. they give you exactly 96 hours to remove the content and then you can go through the dispute process. it took about 2 weeks to work things out. we had used some images from an mfg's pdf installation manual on a page that was reselling that mfg's own products which we were buying from their offical distributor - the only way to get the product. talk about absurd. some of the media…
Solution: Host your stuff outside of country, don't use cloudflare or other US based services
Linode has non-US data centres (eg Singapore). If the node hosting the content was just outside the US, would they need to do a take down? Or is the fact that Linode is a US-based company make this not matter.
This is an african newspaper called the Mail and Guardian, not the UK's 2 big newspapers the daily Mail and the Guardian.