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Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by nikolay »

digitalhans wrote: post #79
nikolay wrote: post #78

Sorry! I'd rather trust Mozilla than some craptocurrency/bullchain company trying to make money out of everything. I don't want to be dealing with speculators and people after the get-rich-quick scheme masqueraded as a "change everything and solve all your problems" solution!

https://www.debian.org/News/2019/20190329 https://news.softpedia.com/news/gnome-and-gimp-receive-400k-... https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/08/gnome-foundation-receives... https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-1...

I don't care about their lame Indulgence attempt and portray themselves as somebody different from the stinky HODL crowd!

Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by AstralStorm »

lone_haxx0r wrote: post #77
PakG1 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you become big, famous, influential, anything like that. Then people can register your domains and misrepresent you or just use your namesake as a platform to attack you (write bad things about you at best, do some really nasty damage at worst). Need to play defense preemptively.

I prefer technology to deal with the technical issues and individuals to deal with their individual issues. Tech can't possibly cater to everyone's special needs. I'm totally fine with domain names being the interface between thr protocol and the human user. All other mappings (e.g. legal names) fall in the realm of human politics.

The problem is that you cannot do anything about it, other than suing the author - if you can find them and they're in a reasonable jurisdiction.

Well, you can try to break the system by splitting it in half, introducing an overlapping domain. If collisions is the desired way of dealing with it, the whole thing is ultimately broken.

Just imagine Amazon breaking Google domains because they have a better cloud.

With ICANN and registrars, there is a point you can directly attack legally, and a root of trust.

Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by donavanm »

tuxxy wrote: post #58
donavanm wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its just one example of the entire governance problem thats conspicuously absent from the post. How is dispute resolution handled? Identity verification? Attestation? Reasonable answers to those questions are generally counter to the raison d’etre of setups like this. And without it you have a spam and scam goldrush to squat the most “valuable” entries and pretty big gap in _human_ trust in the system.

What inherently requires an identity to register a domain name?

Its not that registration requires id. And i dont mean an individual providing gov id. I mean verifying that “store.sony” is managed by a legal entity representing Sony Corporation of America. Basically the entire (ongoing) problem behind DV/EV certs etc. Identity is essentially what underpins trust and dispute resolution.

Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by donavanm »

AstralStorm wrote: post #82
lone_haxx0r wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer technology to deal with the technical issues and individuals to deal with their individual issues. Tech can't possibly cater to everyone's special needs. I'm totally fine with domain names being the interface between thr protocol and the human user. All other mappings (e.g. legal names) fall in the realm of human politics.

The problem is that you cannot do anything about it, other than suing the author - if you can find them and they're in a reasonable jurisdiction. Well, you can try to break the system by splitting it in half, introducing an overlapping domain. If collisions is the desired way of dealing with it, the whole thing is ultimately broken. Just imagine Amazon breaking Google domains because they have a better cloud. With IC…

Yes, this. DNS and CAs are effectively rooted in internationally recognized legal systems with rules, precedent, and procedure (flawed though they may be). Approaches which circumvent that give up those protections. Which leaves something like “first actor is precedence” and “mightiest compute is rightest.” Maybe theres a technical framework that can address those problems. But I havent seen it before, and its not even mentioned in the parent article.

Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by lone_haxx0r »

AstralStorm wrote: post #82
lone_haxx0r wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer technology to deal with the technical issues and individuals to deal with their individual issues. Tech can't possibly cater to everyone's special needs. I'm totally fine with domain names being the interface between thr protocol and the human user. All other mappings (e.g. legal names) fall in the realm of human politics.

The problem is that you cannot do anything about it, other than suing the author - if you can find them and they're in a reasonable jurisdiction. Well, you can try to break the system by splitting it in half, introducing an overlapping domain. If collisions is the desired way of dealing with it, the whole thing is ultimately broken. Just imagine Amazon breaking Google domains because they have a better cloud. With IC…

> With ICANN and registrars, there is a point you can directly attack legally, and a root of trust.

For my use case, that's a problem rather than an advantage, as I'm not a holder of important IP works, trademarks, etc.

Re: Handshake: Decentralizing DNS to Improve the Security of the Internet

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Post by NetOpWibby »

hagreet wrote: post #65
troquerre wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author of the post here. My aim was to keep this post focused and cover the differences between Handshake and previous blockchain DNS attempts in a separate post. The keyword here is attempts: previous projects like Namecoin and ENS haven't really taken off. I think the reason has to do with the underlying technology and the go-to-market strategy (or lack thereof) of the projects. On the technology front, Handshake i…

So, if there is a name that I would like I basically have to announce it to the world and then enter into a bidding war with people speculating?

Yes
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