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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by tyri_kai_psomi »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #141
mehhh wrote: post #108

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I disagree with your false equivalency. IRC is akin to a cellphone without voicemail, as when your disconnected from the network (cellular or IRC) you just don't get communications. Scrollback and voicemail can be useful, but a good chunk of the population does not want either, hence unread backscroll and unconfigured/full voicemail boxes being very common.

>but a good chunk of the population does not want either The largest Freenode channels I'm on like #node.js and #javascript have about 10 regulars max, myself included. It's pretty much dead for any purpose other than hanging out with a handful of curmudgeons feeding off a corpse out of habit. Doesn't seem like "a good chunk" to me. IRC lacks the only feature I really care about in a chat network: new people to talk…

"I have never experienced this thing, therefore this thing must not exist"

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by chillwaves »

dna_polymerase wrote: post #146
opmac wrote: post #97

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Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

> they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. Sigh, every. fucking. time. > I have never worked there, ... or anywhere else where high traffic is involved, right? It's always the people without any real world experience who come up with these BS claims about how everyone else is stupid and how it could be done differently. > ... but outside…

Do you have specific insight into working at Reddit?

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by dralley »

ryacko wrote: post #113
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #67

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> Every user engagement metric has increased since the redesign. Doesn't that just mean that users are spending more time on the site because it's so much more of a pain to get what they actually want out of it? Like, you could increase "user engagement" of a shopping mall by turning it into a labyrinth and rearranging the shops every day.

No, you can increase user engagement of a shopping mall by turning it into a Mobius strip. I don’t think most people know how to handle anything but an infinite scrolling page.

They could have accomplished that without the redesign. That's what reddit enhancement suite has done for ages.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by dymk »

lazyjones wrote: post #134
dymk wrote: post #46

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Reddit gold, the new Reddit platinum and bronze, they already show ads, redesign shows ads much more prominently. Literally dozens of ad trackers when you load their site. Reddit is just as much of a profit driven company as Facebook or Twitter, I’m not sure why you’d think otherwise.

> Reddit is just as much of a profit driven company as Facebook or Twitter, I’m not sure why you’d think otherwise. Because, among other things, they don't show annoying ad formats and don't demand real names and phone numbers from their users.

Yet :)

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by throwaway8879 »

Alex3917 wrote: post #83
sha666sum wrote: post #62

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You know, the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. I don't know if you've had a look around you lately, but the modern internet is a dumpster fire. Anyways, ideally you would be able to connect to services with whichever client you want. You could use a pretty eye candy client, or then not. With the web, however, it's an impossible feat to impleme…

> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

> objectively terrible

These two words next to each other really bother me. That something is "terrible" is not objective, whatever that means. All we have are our subjective valuations.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by realusername »

ryandrake wrote: post #118
manigandham wrote: post #82

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Reddit is a corporation with a large amount of VC investment. Profit is a primary goal, and engagement that shows more time and thus more revenue is exactly what they want.

It would have been more honest of them to come out and just admit “yea, this new design is terrible but it juices our metrics and makes us more money so deal with it if you want Reddit to survive.” Also, Protip: in case anyone still doesn’t know, go to old.reddit.com for the previous, better interface. Who knows how long it will be kept alive though.

> Also, Protip: in case anyone still doesn’t know, go to old.reddit.com for the previous, better interface. Who knows how long it will be kept alive though.

I'm using an extension to automatically redirect to the old one. When the old site is gone, I will probably leave Reddit, the redesign is too unusable for me.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by beatgammit »

mehhh wrote: post #101
Sendotsh wrote: post #35

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Sign me up. I’d happily contribute to that as much as I can, whenever my parents aren’t using the phone line.

Lemmy is a federated alternative to Reddit: https://github.com/dessalines/lemmy Edit: Check out the dev instance of Lemmy! https://dev.lemmy.ml/

Wow, this is quite possibly exactly what I've been looking for! I love Rust (have experience with Actix as well), React (so hopefully Inferno will come naturally), and have been looking for a Reddit alternative for some time!

I'm not sure if I should thank you or curse you for making me want to spend a ton of time on yet another side project ;)

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by ken »

manigandham wrote: post #48
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

Except UX is everything. 100s of billions in corporate value are based on nothing more than better UX. If only everyone who talks about usenet, IRC, and the rest could actually be bothered to update the experience to what modern users demand.

And yet Reddit is regularly down, and apparently today for hours on end. What's the UX of a service that isn't working? Do users not demand that a service be up?

There have been some really good modern Usenet clients. The biggest issue I see is that current browsers don't have built-in support for Usenet any more, and that's not something I can influence in any way.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by manigandham »

ryandrake wrote: post #118
manigandham wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is a corporation with a large amount of VC investment. Profit is a primary goal, and engagement that shows more time and thus more revenue is exactly what they want.

It would have been more honest of them to come out and just admit “yea, this new design is terrible but it juices our metrics and makes us more money so deal with it if you want Reddit to survive.” Also, Protip: in case anyone still doesn’t know, go to old.reddit.com for the previous, better interface. Who knows how long it will be kept alive though.

The problem with that is assuming the new design is terrible for everyone. It very well could be that the majority do like it, and it's a vocal minority that complain.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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Post by thehappypm »

cwkoss wrote: post #98
bitwize wrote: post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

I've specced out a decentralized reddit alternative a little bit, but have too many side projects. Someone please take this and build it. Let me know if you try, would love to spectate and advise on development. The key is there shouldn't be a globally consistent front page. Sorting should be done on an individual basis. Upvotes boost signal signal to peers and downvotes squelch. By propagating content scores transit…

Congrats! You have invented the Instagram feed.
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