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The interesting takeaway here is: maybe Mozilla gave up on Firefox OS too early? It apparently found a market after all, albeit as a fork.
Not a KaiOS user, but I am a daily flip-phone user on a Kyocera DuraXTP running Brew MP. In my flip-phone dreams, the features I would love out of an OS would be: * Obviously, calling/texting. * A fast, minimal app that served as a phone book. * GPS with voice assistant. * An Uber or Lyft app. * That's it. In short, the things that are very useful in an emergency-type situation. I can't imagine there are that may oth…
> As of February 2018, KaiOS Technologies has partnered with Airfind, Facebook, Google, Twitter... The Nokia KaiOS devices come with built in Google services, which instantly disqualify them for me. I don't trust that information from those phones aren't being seeded to Google.
Can't upvote this enough. There is already very little accountability or awareness about what Google Services do behind the scenes. You make a call, your phone connects to 1e100.net; you change some settings, your phone connects to 1e100.net. It's insane that no one seems to be paying attention to any of these.
What was Firefox OS licence? Shouldn't KaiOS share their source code?
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It's not only that. I really gave it a shot and I'd be totally willing to accept a phone with reduced functionality as long as I can use it as a hotspot. The problem is that that thing is so buggy and error prone that it's borderline unusable. Initially it could do Umlauts (Language setting is German), but can't anymore since it ran a software update. Email (very primitive, but would have been fine for on the road) i…
You can use dozens of android phones with custom ROM without any google services. It's usable and a lot more private than iPhone(which is only better than google because they failed to build a successful ad network) But for example if you are in any authoritarian state like china, Apple will hand over all your data to authorities, just in case. And Google at least some time before hasn't agreed to do that and got scr…
That's a pretty good default security level for personal communications.
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It's not only that. I really gave it a shot and I'd be totally willing to accept a phone with reduced functionality as long as I can use it as a hotspot. The problem is that that thing is so buggy and error prone that it's borderline unusable. Initially it could do Umlauts (Language setting is German), but can't anymore since it ran a software update. Email (very primitive, but would have been fine for on the road) i…
You can use dozens of android phones with custom ROM without any google services. It's usable and a lot more private than iPhone(which is only better than google because they failed to build a successful ad network) But for example if you are in any authoritarian state like china, Apple will hand over all your data to authorities, just in case. And Google at least some time before hasn't agreed to do that and got scr…
I'll give it a serious look.
KaiOS is interesting, but from a pure usability POV, going back to T9 is terrible. Simple acts of logging into services is genuinely painful -- which makes it a fun toy but absolutely not anything I would use for anything other than hacking/ROMs/potential IoT stuff.
I did take the 8110 4G to Europe/Asia this year to use as a cheap way to get a hotspot overseas (eSIM on iOS for dual-SIM stuff was just rolling out and since I often still need to use my actual phone number, I have to pay the $10 a day for .5GB of data from Verizon plus whatever the pay as you go SIM costs.). With this, I just bought SIM cards with big data plans and used it as a hotspot with my laptop/iPad/iPhone)
I used the Nokia 8110 with KaiOS as a digital detox phone during holidays. It has working email, whats app, google map, hotspot. It has enough features to "survive" and answer or triage the occasional fires from work. And it is unusable enough that i don't use it for non important stuff (chatting, browsing, etc). Ironically its bad UI/UX is it's main selling point.
And that's exactly detoxing you from what? I mean it's got email, whatsapp, a browser, facebook probably... so what's the point?