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Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by thedaemon »

linsomniac wrote: post #269

CenturyLink, in particular, but also Comcast, has brought this upon themselves... They are doing everything they can to protect their existing infrastructure and do as little as possible to upgrade services. I'm thinking of back in '98 when QWest was rolling out DSL, the would only connect you to a central office. They refused to put DSLAMs in the pedestals, because if they did that they had to allow CLECs to do the…

I have CenturyLink 1Gbps in Colorado Springs. Not sure what you mean about not upgrading their infrastructure. The price is $75 fixed forever as long as I always pay my bill on time.

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Post by parliament32 »

crumpets wrote: post #285
gamegoblin wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In general I agree, but in practice certain nominal prices can be monotonically decreasing due to improved technology lowering prices faster than inflation raises them. For instance, in terms of $/GB, data storage costs have been strictly decreasing in nominal terms even with the existence of inflation. That said, I am not sure how much innovation is going into the costs of maintaining a fiber network, so it’s possib…

Two things: - data costs for bandwidth costs hasn't gone down at the same rate - A big chunk of an ISP is labor costs, which do not go down over time

>labor costs

It depends. If you're constantly doing new customer setup/teardown, yeah that'll cost man-hours. But once your network is up and running it really doesn't take much work to keep it running.

My ISP is a very small local outfit. They have a "few thousand" customers... and the whole thing is run by literally two dudes, doing everything from netops to hw installs to billing and support. Yeah I'll have a few hour outage once every few months, but overall the service is great and it really doesn't take that much effort to keep things ticking.

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Post by thorwasdfasdf »

We really need to start voting against politicians that are in bed with comcast and At&t. Is there some kind of list or online database where we can see which of our local politicians are supporting comcast and at&t with these horrible regulations that prevent open competition?

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Post by hanklazard »

robohoe wrote: post #130
hanklazard wrote: post #83

After many years of using Comcast because it was my only option, I recently had my breakup call with them. We have Verizon Fios as an option and at their lowest tier speeds, we get 100 mbps symmetric (and every time I've checked the speed over the past week, it has been as advertised). Our overpriced Comcast plan was giving us "up to 60 mbps" but we were getting, wait for it, 1 mbps in the last few weeks of our plan.…

Speaking of poor cable speeds, were your downstream/upstream signals poor? Did you have an upstream filter installed on your line by any chance? I too had a similar issue but a tech visit to disconnect a noise filter fixed it.

Hmm, I'm not familiar with that hardware so I certainly didn't install one. Rather than talk to them about troubleshooting, I took the more blunt approach: dump Comcast! (Hint: if you're moving from one big ISP to another, the new one will likely cover your termination fee)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

seansmccullough wrote: post #272
thaumasiotes wrote: post #253

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This is completely unrelated to what "self-rule" means at other levels and in ordinary speech. Why the special definition for cities?

It's a legal term. There are lots of legal terms that have different meanings in the law than in ordinary speech.

In the law, what does it mean for a country to enjoy "self-rule"?

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Post by iforgotpassword »

nnq wrote: post #221
DrJaws wrote: post #195

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On Spain, I'm paying 25€ for 600/600, unlimited calls, a mobile phone line with 3gb of data and 10 hours of calls. $50 for just 1gbps, seems like they can even make profit from that.

with 3gb of data - maybe I'm a weird consumer, but I don't get it what's with this insanely low data caps... while in France I had a 100gb / month 4G data plan for ~20EUR, and couple times I even exceeded those 100 gb! how/what are most people using internet for that they tolerate such small caps?!

What are you doing with your phone? Run bittorrent unthrottled 24/7 just because? I use about 300mb a month, rest is covered by Wi-Fi at home or work.

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Post by driverdan »

marviel wrote: post #271

Another datapoint is Chattanooga, TN, with their municipal 1Gbps / ~$65 plan. https://epb.com/home-store/internet They had plans to expand the service to the surrounding area, but Comcast lobbied to prevent it... https://www.techspot.com/news/68941-residents-rural-chattano...

They've expanded it to cover anyone who gets their electric from EPB which is a surprisingly large area.

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Post by moreorless »

oh_sigh wrote: post #274
moreorless wrote: post #217

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How is the diversity there? Will a Chinese American family feel welcomed there? Asking for a friend. :)

Not super diverse but diverse enough to not be gawked at. There's a fair amount of Chinese and Indian tech people who moved there with families.

Maybe a short family weekend trip is in order. SF is getting so outrageously expensive.

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Post by webo »

jmspring wrote: post #235

The small town where I live in North Eastern California gets it's internet from a local co-op that provides both electrical and internet services to the local community. Part of where I chose to purchase when I moved up here was based on getting fiber. It's been rock solid, but it's about $110/mo for (recently updated) 100/20 fiber. Previously, people were stuck with line of site wifi (can be problematic with a lot o…

Similar story here in Fayetteville Arkansas. I’ve been enjoying a truly gigabit internet for $80/mo since 2017. AT&T and Cox still don’t have anything remotely close to the gigabit speed in residential areas.

https://www.ozarksgo.net/internet

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