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Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by proverbialbunny »

post_break wrote: post #87

ATT brought 1gig fiber to my neighborhood (probably because I'm in NASA's backyard). I have gig symmetrical unlimited for $70 a month. Comcast of course tries to offer the same but with cable and you and I both know it wont be symmetrical, or anywhere close to the speed you pay for. It's funny how quickly Comcast will bend when there is a competitor in the area. Just down the street where there is no fiber they will…

>ATT brought 1gig fiber to my neighborhood (probably because I'm in NASA's backyard).

Could be because Sonic is in the area and is a better ISP.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by joshuaheard »

I pay the same with Cox: $60/mo for gigabit internet (with bundle). There's a Cox store in my neighborhood with helpful service. I don't see the issue here. Why can't the town just invite competition instead of doing it themselves? My experience is that government is the least efficient method for delivering services.

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Post by post_break »

tehlike wrote: post #173
post_break wrote: post #87

ATT brought 1gig fiber to my neighborhood (probably because I'm in NASA's backyard). I have gig symmetrical unlimited for $70 a month. Comcast of course tries to offer the same but with cable and you and I both know it wont be symmetrical, or anywhere close to the speed you pay for. It's funny how quickly Comcast will bend when there is a competitor in the area. Just down the street where there is no fiber they will…

A few months back, i switched to att fiber for 70$, and called comcast to cancel it. They said they will match the price, and that my att installation has 30 day free cancellation period and i should really take that. Give it to me for 35, then i would consider.

I'd rather pay more money to a competitor than stay with comcast at this point.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by saagarjha »

gamegoblin wrote: post #199
Ididntdothis wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“And I know my $50/mo rate will never rise.” Let’s hope they tie it to inflation or similar. Otherwise the system will die slowly due to underfunding.

In general I agree, but in practice certain nominal prices can be monotonically decreasing due to improved technology lowering prices faster than inflation raises them. For instance, in terms of $/GB, data storage costs have been strictly decreasing in nominal terms even with the existence of inflation. That said, I am not sure how much innovation is going into the costs of maintaining a fiber network, so it’s possib…

Of course, people are going to expect more as technology improves.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by orblivion »

cameronbrown wrote: post #68
orblivion wrote: post #61

After a long period of my life not having the fastest in speeds at home, I ended up going all in and telling Comcast "give me the fastest Internet you have". So I'm paying for 400Mbps. ...what do I need all this speed for? What could someone possibly do with 1 Gbps? It's not as though web pages will load faster, they have their own throttling. I don't think I need 400Mbps to stream 4k video. Torrents don't seem to ta…

Throughput - not all about speed. Downloading a game on Steam should not cripple my ability to watch TV, as an example. Plus most machines are off auto updating nowadays, I shouldn't have to suffer because my laptop/phone/TV/toaster decided to patch itself when I don't have any control over that.

So it sounds like you're talking about doing multiple things at the same time. Fair enough, I just think 400Mbps is beyond even the point where that matters for me living alone. Though I don't torrent much, perhaps if I did I'd feel the difference.

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Post by post_break »

proverbialbunny wrote: post #201
post_break wrote: post #87

ATT brought 1gig fiber to my neighborhood (probably because I'm in NASA's backyard). I have gig symmetrical unlimited for $70 a month. Comcast of course tries to offer the same but with cable and you and I both know it wont be symmetrical, or anywhere close to the speed you pay for. It's funny how quickly Comcast will bend when there is a competitor in the area. Just down the street where there is no fiber they will…

>ATT brought 1gig fiber to my neighborhood (probably because I'm in NASA's backyard). Could be because Sonic is in the area and is a better ISP.

I'm in Texas, no Sonic here.

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by orblivion »

Strom wrote: post #80
orblivion wrote: post #61

After a long period of my life not having the fastest in speeds at home, I ended up going all in and telling Comcast "give me the fastest Internet you have". So I'm paying for 400Mbps. ...what do I need all this speed for? What could someone possibly do with 1 Gbps? It's not as though web pages will load faster, they have their own throttling. I don't think I need 400Mbps to stream 4k video. Torrents don't seem to ta…

Faster speeds help with downloads. Yeah you won't notice the difference when downloading a selfie, but when you buy Gears 5 on Steam and want to start playing, you will notice the difference between waiting ~1h45m @ 100Mbps / ~11m @ 1Gbps to get that 80GB game.

Okay, so that means certain services out there actually do let you download that fast. I guess that's different from loading assets on a website?

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by jeremyjh »

DrJaws wrote: post #195
Ididntdothis wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“And I know my $50/mo rate will never rise.” Let’s hope they tie it to inflation or similar. Otherwise the system will die slowly due to underfunding.

On Spain, I'm paying 25€ for 600/600, unlimited calls, a mobile phone line with 3gb of data and 10 hours of calls. $50 for just 1gbps, seems like they can even make profit from that.

How much of your taxes is being used to subsidize that rate?

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by rantwasp »

DrJaws wrote: post #195
Ididntdothis wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“And I know my $50/mo rate will never rise.” Let’s hope they tie it to inflation or similar. Otherwise the system will die slowly due to underfunding.

On Spain, I'm paying 25€ for 600/600, unlimited calls, a mobile phone line with 3gb of data and 10 hours of calls. $50 for just 1gbps, seems like they can even make profit from that.

50$ for 1Gps is amazing in the US. I would also suspect that most of this cost will go to running it, not the tech/actual internet bw

Re: Colorado Town Offers 1 Gbps for $60 After Years of Battling Comcast

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Post by technothrasher »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #171
smt88 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I looked into this, and Ft. Collins is a "Home Rule Municipality" under state law, meaning it can name itself either a town or city. It seems to have chosen to be a city, so you're right. Around the world, it seems that there's one consistent criterion for something being a city: it must have self-rule and a certain amount of government structure. Some places (notably not the US) have population requirements, but tho…

> it seems that there's one consistent criterion for something being a city: it must have self-rule and a certain amount of government structure. What do you mean by self-rule? Singapore is autonomous, but that's definitely not the norm for cities. Almost all of them belong to larger states. No US city has self-rule even at the level below the federal government. Washington, DC comes closest, but it is technically ru…

> What do you mean by self-rule?

Typically at the municipality level, self-rule means the ability to make and enforce your own laws, as long as they are not inconsistent with the laws of higher government levels, without needing explicit permission of those higher government levels.

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