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Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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> The only people I'm aware of that can publish classified information without punishment are journalists. The only people I am aware of which published this were journalists, since day 0. E: I see this is particularly in the context of his publishing his memoirs now after reading the filing. My apologies

Publishing timely facts makes you a journalist. Publishing older facts makes you a historian. There are no legal qualifications for asserting freedom of the press; everyone can do it. Anyone that has not entered into a contractual agreement with the US to protect classified materials can publish classified materials. It's just that the professional journalists, already established with the large news organizations, a…

I understand all of that, and what a journalist is, thanks. I simply didn’t realize they were suing over the book and not, say, they yers of reporting from the Guardian, Le Monde, Intercept, etc based on documents passed to those publications’ journalists by Snowden.

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Something that never made sense to me in the Snowden case is how any of this works in face of whistleblower protection laws in USA. According to Wikipedia, the US offers these legal protections: > Whistleblower protection laws and regulations guarantee freedom of speech for workers and contractors in certain situations. Whistleblowers are protected from retaliation for disclosure of information which the employee or…

In Snowden's case, he was a contractor and the specific whistleblower law covering the NSA did not apply to him.

95% of what we think as "Federal workers" are in fact contractors.

Look no further than Accenture and similar. So sure, there's whistleblower laws. But they're in name only, with no real power for those that work with fed stuff in day to day operations.

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post #184

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It's worse than that. What gives the NSA the right to capture private data from other countries?

Well, they claim the citizens of other countries are not protected by the US constitution. Not that I agree with them, but it might be harder to challenge this in courts.

Sure, from a legal perspective since I guess it's in a grey area of international law. Morally speaking it's wrong.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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Lol, Snowden can't be prosecuted publicly because he's hanging out in Russia. If he got on a plane back to the US today he'd be in front of judge for a plea hearing tomorrow. This is the exact opposite of what you suggest. Someone has such a motivation for "justice" and can't put him in jail, so they want to deprive him of the profits for his book.

Agreed, there is most likely a sealed federal indictment in his name. The part that isn't accurate is that he will almost certainly be held without bail. The government will argue he is a flight risk, and the judge will certainly agree - he will be in jail until his trial.

It's not sealed, he was indicted in 2013.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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This is going to go pretty much like it went for Frank Snepp and "Decent Interval", see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Snepp

I was thinking about the case of the Navy SEAL who wrote about the UBL raid[0]. Same outcome- lots of surrendered money...

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Easy_Day

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