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Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by ItsOfficial »

sezna wrote: post #49
aurbano wrote: post #45

I use LaTeX for my resume and it has been the best experience so far. My content is super simple, and technically I could change the format whenever (although I'd have to learn LaTeX to modify the template, but I'm sure it's not too difficult). Nowadays I use Overleaf's online tex editor, so I don't even need tex installed to update it.

Would you be interested in sharing your template? I used to use TeX, but the available templates never interested me, and I didn't have the time to DiY a good one.

I've used this template as a starting point with solid success.

https://www.overleaf.com/latex/templates/cv-chandan/vgynfrhc...

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by otterley »

ravenstine wrote: post #75
rileyt wrote: post #29

Photos should not be included on resumes sent to most American companies. They are a huge source of bias in the the hiring process and will either be rejected or have the photo removed immediately.

Are there any sources you can cite on this? I've never heard of HR chucking resumes because they have a headshot of the person. If companies are that paranoid about bias, I'd think they'd go as far as to never use LinkedIn.

They may not dispose of the resume, but they may ask for a resubmission without the photo, or may black it out before passing it further into the process.

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by otterley »

mfoy_ wrote: post #56
robohoe wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a reason why a photo should be included?

I mean... other than the obvious ones? (i.e. the same reasons which are why North American companies usually don't or can't request a photo...)

I can't think of an obvious reason why anyone -- other than someone being hired specifically for their looks such as a model or an actor -- should include their photo along with their curriculum vitae. What "obvious" reasons are you thinking of? To prove they're not a bot or a house pet?

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by vilvadot »

TenJack wrote: post #69
brianpgordon wrote: post #39

Just a suggestion: I think it would be a good idea to showcase the variety of your available designs up-front, without requiring a signup. I imagine that a big reservation people will have is that they won't want their resume to be recognizable as "one of the three templates offered by that resume generator." You don't have to show a full PDF sample, but just a gallery showing that there is a large crowd of designs o…

I agree. I'm not going to sign up without seeing a sample.

there is a sample on the landing page!

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by vilvadot »

djsumdog wrote: post #44

A friend of mine had a graphical resume she made in Illustrator and it inspired me to learn Illustrator myself and make this: https://penguindreams.org/files/2018-SumitKhanna-Resume.pdf I like it, and it's got me some good roles (probably also kept me from some roles as I'm sure some threw it in the trash thinking it smelled of marketing rubbish; but I still like it so whateves), but it's also a pain to update. I loo…

Thanks for sharing, that is indeed a quite complex resume, quite a challenge to keep it programatically.

Actually your same experience is what took me to make this, the pain of having to open Illustrator to edit the resume once again. Atleast for the next time I got this. And thanks for the kind words :)

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by Carioca »

robohoe wrote: post #48
djsumdog wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But there are markets where they are expected. In Germany, your resume has a good chance of being discarded if it doesn't display a photo. That has to be kept in mind when making tools like this. They seem to have templates both with and without photos.

Is there a reason why a photo should be included?

If you're REALLY naive, so you can put a face to the person. Could also be seen as a form of “authentication” i.e. to stop people from submitting multiple resumes. I personally consider that misuse far outweighs any reasonable use except for actors models and such

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by ItsOfficial »

vilvadot wrote: post #78
ItsOfficial wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely! There's only so much room to maneuver on resume layouts as it is. One of the, if no THE, most important things I found was the machine readability of a resume. We could build generators that spit beautiful resumes all day but they wouldn't ever get in front of a human to care.

Wow, didn't think about that. I'm not familiar with so automated hiring processes but I guess that is a big concern. Did you find out why? layout, text style? they need a specific template?

Yeah, I wasn't and didn't either!

I love playing around in Adobe Illustrator and so built my resumes in there. I spent DAYS and WEEKS crafting what I thought were a beautiful, icon rich, intuitive, apple-of-my-eye resumes. 250+ applications later the only time I ever got any response was from one or two small operations where it was a human manually reviewing submissions.

Turns out HR/recruiting suites that companies use aren't so hot on parsing, classifying, and tagging image based PDF resumes. Haha, who knew, right?

Finally a friend turned me on to LaTex and I had GREAT success with that. This made a ton of sense: what could be more machine readable than something built out using markup elements, tags, and IDs that explicitly do all that classifying work for the programs already.

So yeah, huge take-away: when your site constructs the resume if you're using HTML and then converting out to PDF (what we did on PortHub) make sure your HTML is verbose and explicit, even if it doesn't get displayed "on page".

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by jahlove »

avaika wrote: post #41
vilvadot wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely see your point in the privacy aspect, but it is really difficult to offer a good user experience with a project like this without storing data. I don't even consider selling data as part of a business model for my projects but I understand that is opaque to the user and not everyone is like this. On the second argument, I assume recruiters are seeing tons of resumes presented in the same package daily. I d…

Moreover, as a person who participated in hiring a lot, a unique design for every CV isn't something I'd be happy with. The more it unified, the easier to scan the paper for the things I'm looking for.

Which is a point against these fancy templates. Even if its super popular, it's still not as popular as a boring word document.

The only case for these fancy resumes is for graphic designers in my view, who should be designing the resume themselves, obviously.

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by vilvadot »

ItsOfficial wrote: post #87
vilvadot wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, didn't think about that. I'm not familiar with so automated hiring processes but I guess that is a big concern. Did you find out why? layout, text style? they need a specific template?

Yeah, I wasn't and didn't either! I love playing around in Adobe Illustrator and so built my resumes in there. I spent DAYS and WEEKS crafting what I thought were a beautiful, icon rich, intuitive, apple-of-my-eye resumes. 250+ applications later the only time I ever got any response was from one or two small operations where it was a human manually reviewing submissions. Turns out HR/recruiting suites that companies…

That is a problem I had on an unrelated project with image based PDFs. With this one I wanted to avoid that, if you check the output, it is text 100% selectable (and even some interactive elements). So hopefully it avoids that problem.

Surely not as easy to parse as something done explicitly for that, but hopefully good enough.

Such good insights in your post! thanks for sharing your past experience.

Re: Show HN: I made a resume generator for developers

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Post by marshallant »

djsumdog wrote: post #44

A friend of mine had a graphical resume she made in Illustrator and it inspired me to learn Illustrator myself and make this: https://penguindreams.org/files/2018-SumitKhanna-Resume.pdf I like it, and it's got me some good roles (probably also kept me from some roles as I'm sure some threw it in the trash thinking it smelled of marketing rubbish; but I still like it so whateves), but it's also a pain to update. I loo…

I got about half way down the first page and closed it. I wonder if anyone has ever made it to the bottom...
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