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United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit.

The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed.

This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government removes their constitutational rights.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part was criminal? And how would he prove that?

The alleged spying on US citizens. I know the rest of us are fair game somehow. This could be a chance to get this before the courts, was my actual (badly communicated) point.

I think we're a little past the need for an "alleged" qualifier.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Is there a constitutional right to privacy? Where is that enshrined? I say this as someone who values privacy for all.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

#25

This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Exactly. Where is the accountability for the government officials who deprived us of our rights in the first place? There's been none. They made a few perfunctory gestures toward self-control, and kept right on violating the Constitution in the same ways under programs with new names.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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post #24

This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Is there a constitutional right to privacy? Where is that enshrined? I say this as someone who values privacy for all.

It's the one about unlawful search and seizure.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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”The United States’ lawsuit does not seek to stop or restrict the publication or distribution of Permanent Record. Rather, under well-established Supreme Court precedent, Snepp v. United States, the government seeks to recover all proceeds earned by Snowden because of his failure to submit his publication for pre-publication review in violation of his alleged contractual and fiduciary obligations.”

What? Either he released inappropriate material and it should be pulled, or he didn’t, and they should leave it alone. It is my understanding that a breach of contract does not entitle one to compensation unless one can show damages. By making this statement, they seem to be saying that there are none.

They’re basically saying “he doesn’t actually reveal anything problematic, we just want to steal the profits for this work, because we don’t like him and we can.”

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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post #24

This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Is there a constitutional right to privacy? Where is that enshrined? I say this as someone who values privacy for all.

Try the 4th Amendment:

> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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post #8
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part was criminal? And how would he prove that?

The alleged spying on US citizens. I know the rest of us are fair game somehow. This could be a chance to get this before the courts, was my actual (badly communicated) point.

He released a lot more than the spying on US citizens.

This lawsuit also appears to be about a different thing: the publication of his book. From the complaint (which is the government's side), he was supposed to get pre-authorization for publication and didn't. Therefore, the money from the book goes to the USG instead of Snowden.

Re: United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

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post #24

This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Is there a constitutional right to privacy? Where is that enshrined? I say this as someone who values privacy for all.

The 4th amendment secures people against unreasonable searches.
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