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Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

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Kudos to the team. While my current workspace is tied to GitHub, I will most certainly switch to Gitlab given the option to. Why? Only one reason: GitHub support is fucking horrible. It’s insanely bad, even for paying enterprise customers. Open a support ticket, you will get some superficial pointers to documentation, and then be completely ignored. Their Product team is the absolute worst too. There are so many thin…

Still waiting for them to respond about a month later. Chased up multiple times. Nothing. They won't keep me as a customer much longer.

Hi! GitLab employee, if you wanna reach out to me directly, I can try to triage to the right team: ecook@gitlab.com

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#193

Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

There are some high-profile FOSS projects using GitLab, but they're not as visible as they would be on GitHub because they host their own instances: - https://gitlab.gnome.org/ - https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/ - https://salsa.debian.org/ (AFAIK this is an ongoing migration) Others are considering a migration: - KDE: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/issues/24900 - GNU Emacs: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/i…

U-boot just made the transition.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On-premise hosting. This is so important to organizations that can't use internet hosted services, for all sorts of various reasons.

Github Enterprise.

The pricing for GitHub Enterprise is "Contact Sales", which as a smallish yet privacy focused company we don't even bother with anymore. That uncertainty plus the keyword "Enterprise" have always amounted to "ridiculously expensive".

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#195

Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

> Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects?

The marketing is pretty bad for one. Go to gitlab.com and you see a site that is mostly extolling the virtues of their commercial product and pricing. There is a "try gitlab for free" but it is aimed very much as a try-before-you-buy for businesses. That's all good and fine, but it is the polar opposite of how github went about acquiring their network. github was marketed heavily as a social site, their marketing was viral.

I don't think it is wrong, but if gitlab is trying to convey messaging that they are "social coding" platform or even an open-source project host, and not just b2b, they are doing a pretty poor job of it.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#197

Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

Search friendliness. Quite a few open-source projects rely heavily on being findable, and often use their Github README as a sort of "marketing site" for developers. Finding projects organically on Gitlab is a nightmare.

A related note is that Github repos have much better SEO than gitlab repos. It is probably a combination of Github being weighted more heavily by search algorithms, but also because Github has a far better network effect. I've tried searching for a repo that is hosted on Gitlab, that is an extremely well written Pytorch library with hosted HTML documentation, etc, and it wouldn't even show up on the first page of Google search results. Meanwhile, a couple of repos on Github with the same or similar names (of far lower quality) were in the top-5 results. The only way I could reliably find the repo is by adding "Gitlab" to the search terms.

I'm also convinced that the repo would be quite popular were it posted on Github because many related Pytorch repos on Github with far poorer code quality and documentation have 1000+ stars. As much as I love Gitlab, it is very hard for me to use anything but Github when working on an Open Source Project that I want to get lots of eyeballs on and hopefully the satisfaction of having other users use my code.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#198
post #37

Kudos to the team. While my current workspace is tied to GitHub, I will most certainly switch to Gitlab given the option to. Why? Only one reason: GitHub support is fucking horrible. It’s insanely bad, even for paying enterprise customers. Open a support ticket, you will get some superficial pointers to documentation, and then be completely ignored. Their Product team is the absolute worst too. There are so many thin…

Github Enterprise support has been awesome. We had an urgent issue and they helped resolve it within the hour.

Re: Gitlab More Than Doubles Valuation to $2.75B Ahead of Planned 2020 IPO

#199

Does anyone know why GitLab hasn't taken off so much amongst open source projects? I have no horse in the race (indeed, I'd love for there to be more variety in this space) but one of my jobs is to link to open source repos and I've just checked.. and the last one I linked to was in December 2018. In the niches I cover, almost no-one seems to actually using GitLab for their open source repos. Lest you think it's just…

We are offering our top tiers (Ultimate or Gold) for free to open source projects [1]. You can see the complete list in our repo [2]. Some of the most recent projects that received our free license are Arch Linux, the Tor Project, edX (currently migrating). Just to add a few more: Drupal, Haskell, VLC, Kali Linux, Lineage OS, and more on this comment [3]. [1] - https://about.gitlab.com/solutions/open-source/program/…

Part of the application for open source projects here requires you specify how many "seats" you need.

> The number of seats is the number of different users that will use this license in the next year.

This seems counter to how many open source projects work where contributors come out of nowhere to make a contribution and may or may not stick around. How does this work when you have hundreds or thousands of unique contributors a year, and you have no good way of predicting?

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