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Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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The free shipping is weird....I recently noticed that my father was looking up something he wanted me to order for him....his price was less, same item and amazon seller. I logged in and boom my price was $3 higher on a 20 dollar item. So, I'm not sure how "free" the shipping is anymore. I do agree that fast shipping is a big part of amazon but I think another big player could match the processing speed.

I've been told that amazon might do "personalized pricing". Friends have told me their friends come up with lower prices in other locations. Target was caught doing this. People with location services turned on using the target app would find pricing for an item jump up as they approached their local store. search for "The Target app price switch: What you need to know"

I am pretty positive amazon is doing "personalized pricing". It was the exactly same item, sold by amazon. I'm already at the point where I want to cancel it, so as soon as someone remotely competitive comes along I will jump ship.

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We definitely need platform legislation for the web. After a certain size, they should be regulated as public utilities. So many companies completely depend on Amazon's platform for their business and they're all easy prey for the behemoth. I did some work for a company that sells batteries on Amazon. A simple dispute got them suspended across the board. A decision made by a third rate employee from god knows where,…

You’re describing a monopoly and the proper tool to deal with it is anti-trust, not entrenching it by pretending it’s a public utility.

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Amazon has multiple sellers with different shipping options and prices for most items, and always tries to show you the best "deal". This sometimes includes the likelihood that you prefer the two-day shipping. The listing being offered to you father probably wasn't eligible for prime (not shipped by Amazon) so the price+shipping was lower than Amazon's price+non-free-shipping (and the third party was likely intention…

Same seller Amazon.

Was the shipping time the same? Perhaps the seller is closer to your father than you. Was it prime 2-day? Or was it FBA i.e. Shipped by Amazon? I think you'll need to provide more details before we can conclude Amazon is price gouging.

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Nothing illegal about that unless Anker has a design patent.

You don't need a patent to protect a design. There's trademark, copyright and design protections, not just patents. So maybe Anker are uniquely incompetent in selecting suppliers. Not specifying in the contract with factories not to copy whatever widget they produce for Anker, not registering any of their designs. Yet aside from a) products within the same group ostensibly from different brands and b) same idea but c…

You said they were not copying the brand, so it's not trademark infringement nor counterfeit.

You keep using the word counterfeit when it does not apply. Copyright is also not applicable unless there's a work of art printed on the product (like cell phone cases).

Most brands making commodity products don't get protection for the design, because the design isn't that unique. Search for "fast chargers for Samsung" and you'll see tons of chargers identical to the Samsung charger except with a different name. Same for Apple.

Examples:

https://www.amazon.com/Pantom-Adaptive-Charging-Compatible-S...

https://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Charging-Charger-Compatible-...

https://www.amazon.com/Panmy-Foldable-Portable-Charging-Comp...

https://www.amazon.com/ByCallMax-Adapter-Original-Certified-...

Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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Same seller Amazon.

Was the shipping time the same? Perhaps the seller is closer to your father than you. Was it prime 2-day? Or was it FBA i.e. Shipped by Amazon? I think you'll need to provide more details before we can conclude Amazon is price gouging.

We are 15 mins away from each other. It said sign up for prime to receive 2 day shipping on his end I believe.

I may be wrong. I will try to take some screenshots another time, as it seems like nobody else noticed, therefore, i may be in the wrong here.

Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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Considering how shopping at Amazon now feels like shopping at an electronics bazaar in Singapore with giant bins of random knock-off products of suspicious quality, tweaking the algo to push name-brand options (even if it's their own name-brand) would be a welcome move to me as a buyer. Obviously it's grossly unfair to their vendors, but from a strictly user-centric view it's an improvement. Otherwise, Amazon feels l…

> Otherwise, Amazon feels like AliExpress with faster shipping and better English. It literally is. All these products are cheap stuff that marketers find on aliexpress. They buy them in bulk, stamp a logo on it, import in the US/EU, stock in logistic centers and then sell on Amazon. It's the same stuff, but it comes from an English seller and a warehouse in US/EU. It's exactly the same thing that Amazon does with it…

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Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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What would that look like though? If consumers wanted to go to 20 different stores to shop online, they'd already be doing that.

> What would that look like though? If consumers wanted to go to 20 different stores to shop online, they'd already be doing that. They do. Amazon accounts for about 47% of online retail. The rest is divided up among a bunch of other sites.

47% of online retail. But they also own a grocery store chain, have their own brick and mortar stores, operate distribution centers, provide much of the world’s cloud computing, own and operate a Hollywood studio, etc. That’s just what I can think of off the top of my head.

Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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You don't need a patent to protect a design. There's trademark, copyright and design protections, not just patents. So maybe Anker are uniquely incompetent in selecting suppliers. Not specifying in the contract with factories not to copy whatever widget they produce for Anker, not registering any of their designs. Yet aside from a) products within the same group ostensibly from different brands and b) same idea but c…

You said they were not copying the brand, so it's not trademark infringement nor counterfeit. You keep using the word counterfeit when it does not apply. Copyright is also not applicable unless there's a work of art printed on the product (like cell phone cases). Most brands making commodity products don't get protection for the design, because the design isn't that unique. Search for "fast chargers for Samsung" and…

There are well known, widely applied design protections that are not patents.

Here's the EU's:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_design_rights_in_th...

Which protects "the appearance of the whole or a part of a product resulting from the features of, in particular, the lines, contours, colours, shape, texture and/or materials of the product itself and/or its ornamentation". It applies if they are novel and/or if they have unique character.

Re: Amazon Changed Search Algorithm in Ways That Boost Its Own Products

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You said they were not copying the brand, so it's not trademark infringement nor counterfeit. You keep using the word counterfeit when it does not apply. Copyright is also not applicable unless there's a work of art printed on the product (like cell phone cases). Most brands making commodity products don't get protection for the design, because the design isn't that unique. Search for "fast chargers for Samsung" and…

There are well known, widely applied design protections that are not patents. Here's the EU's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_design_rights_in_th... Which protects "the appearance of the whole or a part of a product resulting from the features of, in particular, the lines, contours, colours, shape, texture and/or materials of the product itself and/or its ornamentation". It applies if they are novel and/or…

The equivalent in the US is a design patent.
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