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Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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"Almost everyone" working on NLP uses one of hugginface's pretrained models at one point or another, sooner or later: https://github.com/huggingface/pytorch-transformers It's so damn convenient, and so nicely done. And they keep doing neat things like this one: https://github.com/huggingface/swift-coreml-transformers Kudos to Julien Chaumond et al for their work!

For anyone else initially confused, NLP in this context is "Natural Language Processing."

Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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If you host large, publicly available data in a cloud blob service, but you don't have a budget for it, one option is to use the "Requester Pays" feature that Amazon and Google provide. This makes the data available to anyone to download, but they need to pay the download cost themselves. This is at the tradeoff of making your data significantly more irritating to access, as it's no longer just plugging in a URL into…

Or just post a magnet link.

So if there's no other seeders, you end up eating the full cost as the only seeder....

Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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I bet that 95% of all in-house CI would break if it doesn't have access to the internet. I also bet that 95% of those wouldn't need to have access if they were properly designed. We rarely hear about CI servers being taken over but it has to happen frequently enough.

Most enterprises use Artifactory or something similar -- or should anyway. Once you start enforcing "no internet for CI" you start to see how poor some ecosystems are. I'm looking at you, Javascript ecosystem packages, with your hardcoded mystery URLs that you sneakily download artefacts from...

Surely lots of orgs would eschew packages with such sneaky behavior? Turning off the network would be a good way to test for that...

Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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It's surprising that nobody here's mentioned Wasabi, since they have free egress.

There's no such thing as a free lunch.

Wasabi's own docs[1] mention a ballpark definition of "reasonable" as monthly transfer being less than total storage. Above that you'll get a call.

I'm sure they'd still be cheaper than AWS, but it's not going to be $5/TB/month to service the entire world.

[1]: https://wasabi.com/pricing/pricing-faqs/

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Oh, so now IP addresses is PII? When it is inconvenient for FAAGM monster corporations? I seem to remember a few hundred thousands corporate statements that tracking individual IPs is totally ok and not surveillance.

IP addresses are definitely PII under GDPR.

There is no concept of PII under GDPR. There is personal data (information about a natural living person) and identifiers (information that connects personal data with an identifiable natural living person). An IP address is usually an identifier - it's not completely unique, but it is potentially enough (especially when combined with other identifiers) to uniquely identify the subject of a piece of personal data.

This tweet is overwhelmingly unlikely to be a breach of GDPR, because the controller (Julien Chaumond) has no ability to correlate an entire /8 range with a natural living person. Nobody is identifiable, there is no personal data, therefore the activity is not in scope.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-4-gdpr/

Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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Map: https://www.caida.org/research/id-consumption/census-map/ima... (a bit dated, but shows the historic allocations) Look up "CIDR", history thereof, for reasons why it looks this way.

Crazy how wasteful it is. I wonder what genius thought to allocate /8 to every company/organization. You don't need to have PhD in statistics and math to know there's more than 250 companies.

Maybe take a dose of humility and realize that at one point the fastest processors and memory systems in the world weren't capable of holding more than a limited size routing table, while maintaining acceptable line speed?

And that in the interests of working within the physical hardware limitations of the day, very smart engineers made the best choices they could?

Jesus.

Re: Apple downloads ~45 TB of models per day from our S3 bucket

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post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bet that 95% of all in-house CI would break if it doesn't have access to the internet. I also bet that 95% of those wouldn't need to have access if they were properly designed. We rarely hear about CI servers being taken over but it has to happen frequently enough.

Most enterprises use Artifactory or something similar -- or should anyway. Once you start enforcing "no internet for CI" you start to see how poor some ecosystems are. I'm looking at you, Javascript ecosystem packages, with your hardcoded mystery URLs that you sneakily download artefacts from...

We had a situation at work where some developers really got attached to downloading npm modules at container start time to make builds fast. But then starting the containers took 15 minutes :P
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