Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack • Hacker News Board

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by vips7L » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:06 AM UTC

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #337

lazyguy2 wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get rid of the Macbook if you want to run Linux. Without OS X there isn't any real point to it. Dell and friends do much better job at reliability.

My only worry is finding a GUI I know I'll like. To my understanding, with Linux it's basically like legos. Beyond the kernel, you have a ton of choice in what you can use. I want the experience for a few weeks, before diving in fully. I also really like the gestures of Mac OS's trackpad and I don't want to give that up-- it enables a lot of productivity. I like being able to spawn a new desktop and three-finger swip…

What youre looking for is libinput gestures [0]. Or just use keyboard shortcuts.

[0] https://github.com/bulletmark/libinput-gestures

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by egypturnash » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:20 AM UTC

vuln wrote: post #317

egypturnash wrote: post #315

My 6S still has a headphone jack, and I haven't had any real desire to upgrade it.

Well until now you still received security updates so now you have a choice. Get a new phone and continue to get security updates or ???

As far as I can tell it’s gonna get IOS13, so I don’t have to worry about that choice yet.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by znpy » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:30 AM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

> while the industry laments

Apple's target has shifted from pro users to the general public.

People don't really appreciate the MacBook, they appreciate MacOs. If GNU/Linux had a comparable user experience, it'd win hands down.

And on that matter, I recently installed Ubuntu 18.04 lts and I've been surprised at how well it's working (and how much hardware it detected automatically).

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by mjcohen » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:41 AM UTC

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #278

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I've been looking into Linux, but it's a nightmare to get running on a (2018) Macbook Pro. (Older years have better support through community effort). With the introduction of new chipsets, it's made it even more challenging for the OSS community to keep up. My next laptop will likely be not a MacBook, so long as I can get a high-res display.

If you want to run particular apps, you can use Macports or homebrew.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by robocat » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:45 AM UTC

robocat wrote: post #212

secfirstmd wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also let's not forget security updates in relation to Android phones...A two year old phone today, two years down the line may well not be receiving them

1. New Android phones are different: Android 9 was redesigned to make security updates by Google a lot easier. I have been buying Nokia which are getting good security upgrades/updates (and cost a few hundred USD). 2. Browsing on Android remains secure e.g. Android 4.4 is still getting Chrome updates (I think Chrome is generally more secure than Safari anyway). iPhones become insecure to use when they stop getting up…

Note: nice recent article "Google can’t fix the Android update problem" https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/4/20847758/google-android-up...

I didn't know: "starting with Android 10, a new initiative called “Project Mainline” will mean some of the plumbing inside Android can be updated directly via the Play Store."

Nice graph showing that Nokia is really good at updating their devices (and also shows how abysmal most Android manufacturers are at updating versions!). That said, I haven't got Android 10 yet (although I might get it since it is a Nokia and I am still within the 2 year upgrade window).

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by rarecoil » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:47 AM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I think we might simply be wrong as to what we got out of the iPhone SE and what Apple's intent with it was. The SE was a substantially cheaper iPhone.

Perhaps at the time, Apple had a bunch of old 5/5S-style hardware that they needed to get rid of, and so to liquidate it all, they created the "iPhone SE" as a low-end phone to get rid of all of those extra components in that form factor.

If so, the fact we all bought it because it was a small frame device is actually secondary to why it was created in the first place. If this motivation is true, it's also likely that if there is an SE2, it's going to be iPhone 7 or iPhone 8 in size and part selection with the better SoC, and you will be getting an A13-based, 4.7", Touch ID that looks indistinguishable from the iPhone 7 or iPhone 8 depending upon what bodies they have a lot of sitting around (or a lot of manufacturing capacity therein). I personally don't suspect a modernized 5/5S style phone from Apple the next time.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by daseiner1 » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 3:53 AM UTC

brailsafe wrote: post #284

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and haven't heard of anything) 3) How's the rest of your keyboard doing? Do you like it?

I also like the TouchBar and use BetterTouchTool a bit. But the limitation that annoys me is that I can't simultaneously customize it and display app specific context buttons. As in one section customized if a spotify thing is playing, but otherwise make the space available for overriding.

Have you investigated the option in BTT on a button to always display regardless of context?

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by jdeibele » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 4:06 AM UTC

Apocryphon wrote: post #253

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

The original SE was announced in a March event, so I assume its successor might appear six months from now.

They might announce something after the Christmas season. Apple would want to sell as many 11s and 11 Pros as they can before competing with themselves.

Not sure what effect the tariffs will have if they take effect in mid-December. Having a cheaper iPhone means less of a hit from tariffs. https://macdailynews.com/2019/08/29/apple-iphone-faces-15-u-...

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by Whatarethese » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:39 AM UTC

Headphone jacks are dumb when a majority of the populous does not use them. They are a dust and water ingress point and just take up space that could be used for something more useful. Such as more battery or haptic engine.

Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by nkkollaw » Tue, Sep 17, 2019, 5:59 AM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

> They’ve killed the non Touch Bar MacBook Pro

I would not buy a laptop with a Touch Bar if they paid me.

I'm still using a 2015 MacBook Pro—since it's the last laptop that has all the correct ports and working keyboard, but I'm looking forward to their next event when they should release a new version. If there is no normal keyboard that doesn't break and it doesn't have a non-Touch Bar version, I'll start looking into hackintoshes.