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100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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I used to use flattr and thought the concept was sound. Until I saw that most of the creators I wanted to sponsor never bothered to sign up and collect their money. Anyone else have experience with flattr or similar alternatives? I figure with all the "block chain" interest we'd have seen something built on a cryptocurrency allowing "direct" microdonations to a website's "wallet" EDIT: looks like coil is kinda of lik…

Readability tried something like this. Readers liked it a lot more than publishers did. https://web.archive.org/web/20120702145822/http://blog.reada... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4105891

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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It's crazy, that we still do not have something like "Cash" on the internet. A simple, anonymous way to pay 10 cent or so. To use a website or read an article. That would make the world so much better for indie developers. Currently, an indie dev makes orders of magnitude less money per pageview then Google, Facebook and Co. Because those have all that advertising technology and ecosystem that indie devs don't have.…

Unfortunately the service that is free will always be more popular and ultimately win over more users. People have decided that paying with their privacy is better for them. I really wish paying 10 cents to use the service was the norm, but alas I doubt it will ever happen.

That may not be true.

I don’t think it’s been well tested, and we should at least try giving people the benefit if the doubt before we give up, in my opinion.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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post #9

I used to use flattr and thought the concept was sound. Until I saw that most of the creators I wanted to sponsor never bothered to sign up and collect their money. Anyone else have experience with flattr or similar alternatives? I figure with all the "block chain" interest we'd have seen something built on a cryptocurrency allowing "direct" microdonations to a website's "wallet" EDIT: looks like coil is kinda of lik…

Flattr is the property of Eyeo GmbH, the same company that owns Adblock Plus. Also keep in mind that you will have to give them a copy of your government ID to withdraw the money you receive.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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Halfway through reading this, the site suddenly covered half the screen with a "donate to Mozilla" banner. The case for "reshaping the economics of the web" would have been a bit more compelling without that... (My problem isn't about asking for donations. It's about asking for them in a particularly user-hostile way. If the call to action at the bottom isn't enough, work it into the text.)

Its sort of fitting though. Obtrusive popups like that are prevalent because, unfortunately, they work better than anything else. If something less obtrusive worked, then this particular grant would not be needed.

Essentially Mozilla is offering people money to find a way to make that banner unnecessary.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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It's crazy, that we still do not have something like "Cash" on the internet. A simple, anonymous way to pay 10 cent or so. To use a website or read an article. That would make the world so much better for indie developers. Currently, an indie dev makes orders of magnitude less money per pageview then Google, Facebook and Co. Because those have all that advertising technology and ecosystem that indie devs don't have.…

I mean just buying something without giving them your email or filling out a ton of fields would remove a ton of friction.

I could see myself paying 25 cents to read a NYT article right now as an impulse buy. But how does it even work right now. They’d probably ask for my email, phone, and address. Then I’d have to enter credit card details.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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It's crazy, that we still do not have something like "Cash" on the internet. A simple, anonymous way to pay 10 cent or so. To use a website or read an article. That would make the world so much better for indie developers. Currently, an indie dev makes orders of magnitude less money per pageview then Google, Facebook and Co. Because those have all that advertising technology and ecosystem that indie devs don't have.…

I think indie developers shouldn't rely on advertising at all. It's like being adventurer and rely on carrots as food for adventure. You need to find the proper food to do adventure. Same with the developers. Indie developers must do software and provide a service or anything that is valued by a consumer. Anything else is just a waste of time.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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post #3

It's crazy, that we still do not have something like "Cash" on the internet. A simple, anonymous way to pay 10 cent or so. To use a website or read an article. That would make the world so much better for indie developers. Currently, an indie dev makes orders of magnitude less money per pageview then Google, Facebook and Co. Because those have all that advertising technology and ecosystem that indie devs don't have.…

Cryptocurrency can do this, but Bitcoin artificially keeps the blocksize to 1.6KB/s so people think that small transactions are not practical in a general sense, since they aren't practical there.

I've never had an issue sending small amounts using Bitcoin Cash which has increased the blocksize limit. The guy who took over after Satoshi left also says that Bitcoin Cash is what he was working on for what it's worth. https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/929377620000681984?...

Cash Shuffle and Cash Fusion will also provide the privacy needed for users to safely enjoy Bitcoin Cash.

Re: 100 million dollars to reshape the economics of the web

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post #2

Halfway through reading this, the site suddenly covered half the screen with a "donate to Mozilla" banner. The case for "reshaping the economics of the web" would have been a bit more compelling without that... (My problem isn't about asking for donations. It's about asking for them in a particularly user-hostile way. If the call to action at the bottom isn't enough, work it into the text.)

I dunno, I could see that as being the most effective thing possible: I mean, if Mozilla wasn't feeling the need to do that, the problem might already have been solved.
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