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Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

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Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

#22
I remember when I got an early 4G phone on Verizon (I think it was a Droid something or other).

It was INSANELY fast. Presumably because I was one of the few folks on it and Verizon had built out all the towers and bandwidth was ready for growth.

As time passed the performance suffered, granted 4G seems plenty for me most of the time.

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

#23
post #8

LTE seems plenty fast enough for typical phone usage. Not sure how much 5G will improve mobile experience in the near future without massive advances in VR. Is all this telecom positioning to setup a replacement for landline internet service?

Yes. Many consumers will like it because there's no need for a modem or router.

Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile/Sprint are all working on vertically integrating to provide phone service, 5G, and streaming content options.

Comcast is now in the cell phone business, and owns NBC and Universal. T-Mobile (soon to be merged with Sprint) bought Layer3 and is now in the TV business.

AT&T owns Warner Brothers and HBO. Verizon will likely follow suit.

No coax cables. No modems. Just streaming content over 5G, via oligopolistic walled gardens.

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

#24
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G can handle more devices being connected. All those smart things that want to phone home. It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning home without using our personal internet connections. I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. 5G makes this idea much easier. Phone companies can g…

I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. If you have cable, satellite, or streaming this already happens. The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage.

> The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage.

Pi-hole[1] might still help at the moment, until the TVs start coming with their own SIM cards.

In any case, I wouldn't use a TV as anything more than an extra large monitor for Raspberry Pi running something like Kodi[2].

[1] https://pi-hole.net/

[2] https://kodi.tv/

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5G can handle more devices being connected. All those smart things that want to phone home. It's likely 5G will let many more devices be connected and phoning home without using our personal internet connections. I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. 5G makes this idea much easier. Phone companies can g…

I wonder what it would look like for my TV to be connected and sending my viewing habits back to the manufacturer without a method for me to turn it off. If you have cable, satellite, or streaming this already happens. The only way to watch TV without being watched is to use an antenna or local storage.

It depends on who is watching. For example, if I am watching Netflix I expect them to know what I watched. But, would I expect my TV (the visual device) to know what I watched and report back to the TV manufacturer? I can choose to not connect my TV to the Internet or use something like Pie Hole to stop that device from reporting. If the TV used the cell network how would I stop the TV from reporting?

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

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post #22

I remember when I got an early 4G phone on Verizon (I think it was a Droid something or other). It was INSANELY fast. Presumably because I was one of the few folks on it and Verizon had built out all the towers and bandwidth was ready for growth. As time passed the performance suffered, granted 4G seems plenty for me most of the time.

Don't forget bloat. Back in the 3G days no one would wait for your 50MB website to load. But once 4G became commonplace, what's the harm in adding another 10MB of assets?

Basically, as an early adopter you were a 4G user visiting the 3G web. But now it's the 4G web.

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

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post #23
post #8

LTE seems plenty fast enough for typical phone usage. Not sure how much 5G will improve mobile experience in the near future without massive advances in VR. Is all this telecom positioning to setup a replacement for landline internet service?

Yes. Many consumers will like it because there's no need for a modem or router. Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile/Sprint are all working on vertically integrating to provide phone service, 5G, and streaming content options. Comcast is now in the cell phone business, and owns NBC and Universal. T-Mobile (soon to be merged with Sprint) bought Layer3 and is now in the TV business. AT&T owns Warner Brothers and HBO. V…

It still doesn't make sense to me. My 4G is fast, faster than home internet often. The reason I don't use it at home is it the cost of data, not speed. Unless 5g lowers the data cost, I don't see any benefit.

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

#29

This is a clickbait title. Their 5G network is worse than their 4G network. Their 4G network is not faster than 5G in general.

Their 4G beats a lot of other countries 5G. But yes theoretically 5G is a lot better and generally should be faster. It’s also got other capabilities like support for higher density (devices per sq km)

Re: Australia’s 4G network is faster than 5G: study

#30
post #9

This is where marketing and confusion can come in. There is what the technology is capable of and then the network backing it. For example, where I live I get a fraction of what 4G can provide. The reason is the cell phone providers network. I could get far faster speeds out of 4G if the providers provided it. 5G has some positives and negatives over 4G. For example, 5G frequencies interfere with the detection of wat…

>get a fraction of what 4G can provide

Providers love to boast about max speeds, but the reality is every device under a base station shares the total capacity, more devices means competition and slower speeds.

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