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Post by [deleted] »

FDSGSG wrote: post #84
crusso wrote: post #62

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It's unprofessional to let prospective customers know that EasyDNS is not a company that specializes in handling DDOS, so just keep looking for a company that can help you out? Seems refreshingly honest to me. And as a customer of theirs, I appreciate that they're looking to protect the infrastructure that I rely upon. Regarding that second part; if you do any kind of online service provision like EasyDNS, you'll qui…

> we may also wildcard your DNS to localhost and set the TTL on your zone out to a year. You’ve been warned No, this is simply indefensible. There's simply no way you could ever excuse this. Suspending a customer domain is OK, this is not.

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Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by danShumway »

mywittyname wrote: post #137
FDSGSG wrote: post #84

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> we may also wildcard your DNS to localhost and set the TTL on your zone out to a year. You’ve been warned No, this is simply indefensible. There's simply no way you could ever excuse this. Suspending a customer domain is OK, this is not.

It sounds like they are doing society a favor.

Deciding who they do and don't want to do business with is fine. It's not their job to protect vulnerable domains. Actively sabotaging someone so they can't take their business elsewhere is not OK -- especially when their offense boils down to, "we didn't tell you that someone else was attacking us." That's not doing anyone any favors except attackers.

Bear in mind, the context here is not domains doing something awful or spamming people or mounting your own attacks. It's "somebody's attacking you, and we think that you suspected they would".

Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by kuschku »

icebraining wrote: post #117
kuschku wrote: post #72

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You offer .de domains. Customers buying .de domains have to be, necessarily, German, so you’re necessarily advertising to German customers.

> Customers buying .de domains have to be, necessarily, German According to DENIC's TOS, the domain owner doesn't have to be German (as long as they appoint a Germany-based representative for receiving correspondence official and court correspondence, but that's not easyDNS' concern).

It’s hard to argue that you don’t cater to the german market if you market a product that explicitly requires a german representative.

Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by mikehodgson »

FDSGSG wrote: post #121
jeremy7600 wrote: post #116

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Wait, you want to expose your shady spam operation so you can claim damages? Tell me how that works out for you.

Where exactly does the quoted text mention shady spam operations? It's about DDoS victims, not cybercriminals. >We are NOT a DDoS Mitigation Service. Yes, we have a lot of DDoS mitigation in place. No, this isn’t here so that you can get cheap DDoS mitigation. You cannot use any services here if you are, have been or think you may be the direct target of a DDoS attack. Contact us instead for a referral to a real DDoS…

> If you come on this system knowingly bringing a DDoS on your heels

Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by stevekemp »

cj wrote: post #58

I've been harrassed by law firms in connection with photograph copyright claims. In my case it was a law firm in France who also had a presence in the US. It was a minor claim (they demanded $500). We took the image down immediately, but they continued to demand their cash "settlement" with multiple letters over a year (1 letter every 1-2 months, each one with increasingly aggressive wording). I eventually got on the…

I do photography as a hobby. When I reach the point where I wish to complain about unauthorized use of copyright images I do not want "credit", or images to be removed, I want damages. For some reason people think credit is sufficient to excuse bad behaviour, and removing images after they've profited from them with no additional recourse is fine.

It rarely comes to the point of making a claim, just when people blatently copy images and pretend to have authored them, or when companies are printing them and selling them on media, t-shirts, etc.

But generally the process is pretty smooth from a "complaining" side. Certainly by the point a first letter has been issued without any reaction the next step is to give up, or start complaining "upstream", or via other media/mediums.

Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by FDSGSG »

mikehodgson wrote: post #144
FDSGSG wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where exactly does the quoted text mention shady spam operations? It's about DDoS victims, not cybercriminals. >We are NOT a DDoS Mitigation Service. Yes, we have a lot of DDoS mitigation in place. No, this isn’t here so that you can get cheap DDoS mitigation. You cannot use any services here if you are, have been or think you may be the direct target of a DDoS attack. Contact us instead for a referral to a real DDoS…

> If you come on this system knowingly bringing a DDoS on your heels

So hosting a minecraft server? Or a game server of any kind? An IRC server? An internet forum? An email provider?

All things notorious for attracting DDoS attacks.

Re: EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

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Post by fuzz4lyfe »

brianpgordon wrote: post #122
Griffinsauce wrote: post #92

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People have such a strange idea of "professionalism". It's about your principles and what you do, not the semantics and aesthetics.

"What you do?" You mean like breaking a customer's domain name for the next year if EasyDNS thinks they brought a DoS attack "on their heels?"

I take professionalism to mean you know your craft. Like for example setting the TTL on a DNS server to a year won't cause downstream services to cache the record for a year but instead something on the order of a few hours to a few days in practice.

To quote RFC 2181: "Implementations are always free to place an upper bound on any TTL received, and treat any larger values as if they were that upper bound. The TTL specifies a maximum time to live, not a mandatory time to live."

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Post by FDSGSG »

dubcanada wrote: post #131
FDSGSG wrote: post #101

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Judging by their ToS, I wouldn't be so sure that easyDNS has attorneys.

You seem to really dislike easyDNS.

Can't say I know them well enough to "dislike" them, but based on a brief look at their ToS they're certainly not a company I'd want to do business with.

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Post by blackflame7000 »

n8henry wrote: post #98
ransom1538 wrote: post #96

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Basic company idea. 0) Purchase office in East Texas. 1) Hire a few young lawyers (having difficulty finding work), 2) scan for companies that have 1 round of series A funding, 3) scan their website for any off domain image, 4) scan their website for any SMS sending, 5) if anything is found - send scary overnight letters demanding 4-5k The worst thing that you can do to THIS business idea is to take the letter and th…

Can you elaborate on the SMS sending?

It is a TCPA violation to SMS message people without first getting their permission. Fines are approximately $1500 per text.
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