EasyDNS threatened with criminal complaint if client data not disclosed

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 5:13 PM UTC

garmaine wrote: post #64

geggam wrote: post #55

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What this means is if you host a website for someone to sue you in a court of law the process instantly requires an international lawyer. They are not cheap. Pick your countries right and arguably you would be hard to sue. IANL but you should consult one when implementing this strategy.

Nope, that's not how it works. They can simply sue you in the jurisdiction in which you live, getting a court order for you to reveal the information. Details of where it is hosted doesn't matter. Unless you don't mind serving indefinite jail time for contempt of court.

Post by icebraining » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 5:16 PM UTC

cesarb wrote: post #35

otterley wrote: post #7

Attorney here! (Not legal advice, consult a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.) Don't get me wrong, but easyDNS may be jumping hastily to conclusions. In many countries, soliciting business there makes you subject to its jurisdiction and laws, regardless of where your business is based. I don't know German law, but I hope that easyDNS consulted their own attorneys on the subject before publishing this post, or t…

> In many countries, soliciting business there makes you subject to its jurisdiction and laws, regardless of where your business is based. That line of reasoning always sounded tautological to me. "Law X from country A says that by doing Y you are under jurisdiction of country A", but for "law X from country A" to apply to you, don't you have to already be under jurisdiction of country A in the first place?

Post by luckylion » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 5:17 PM UTC

nitwit005 wrote: post #68

nickodell wrote: post #53

EasyDNS's Plain English Terms of Service make them seem like a really unprofessional company: >We are NOT a DDoS Mitigation Service. [...] If you come on this system knowingly bringing a DDoS on your heels we shut down service (we may also wildcard your DNS to localhost and set the TTL on your zone out to a year. You’ve been warned). or >Guilt-by-Association: not only do we terminate any domains or websites which vio…

People complain about the incomprehensible legalese in terms of service all the time. Here you are complaining about a lack of legalese. Shows you why people just stick with the unreadable nonsense.

Post by walrus01 » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 5:20 PM UTC

otterley wrote: post #7

Attorney here! (Not legal advice, consult a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.) Don't get me wrong, but easyDNS may be jumping hastily to conclusions. In many countries, soliciting business there makes you subject to its jurisdiction and laws, regardless of where your business is based. I don't know German law, but I hope that easyDNS consulted their own attorneys on the subject before publishing this post, or t…

Post by luckylion » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 5:24 PM UTC

kuschku wrote: post #70

tzs wrote: post #66

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Do you have other clients who are in Germany? It appears that you do act as a registrar for .DE domains. At least, entering "ascascdasdcascascascasdcasdc.de" on the search on the front page at https://easydns.com/ offers to register it for me. It's purely a guess on my part, but I'd expect that most people who purchase .DE domains are in Germany, so if you've actually sold a few .DE domains you probably have some Ger…

In fact, to be able to offer .de domains as registrar, you have to join DENIC, and .de domains can only be owned by a legal German person, and always have to have an actual German person as representative. To me this looks like German law definitely applies to them.