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iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

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I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Apple is catching up to Android in privacy ? Good joke :)

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#42

This article sold me in switching to iPhone. It's like everything about Facebook dating seems like a eugenic program to favour people with a naive and submissive tendency toward power and authorities. As a technology change, online dating has become a "radical monopoly (Illich)," in the sense that whether you use it or not, you are subject to it, the way a cyclist is subject to the car, and any algorithmic bias or si…

I'm curious your reasoning to switch to Apple who is not known to be Pro-consumer. Aren't you afraid they are using your data without you Knowing? It's not like Apple would voluntarily reveal that. For example, they claim top security, but that is ambiguous. Meaning you really can't trust their marketing at all.

These questions seem rather loaded.

You're essentially arguing that Apple is secretly breaking EU and California law and then asking us to proven that your supposition isn't true.

If you know of evidence that they are, by all means please share, but with the status quo there's no specific need to address issues that have no known basis in fact.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#43
post #10

Tell your non-it friends to uninstall the facebook app and use the web browser interface instead if they want to stay on facebook. Preferably they also block all 3rd party cookies, use an ad-blocker and occasionally delete all cookies and reset their Ad-Id.

Since mobile browsers now support native notifications and Facebook's website supports browser notifications, you can get most of the benefits of having a Facebook app without actually having to have one (inc. reduced battery drain, reduced privacy invasion, and so on).

My current setup is Facebook.com notifications via Chrome [Android] browser and Messenger Lite. It is still spying on me but the impact is substantially diminished.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#44

I've been using the iOS 13 developer beta for a couple months, and I can confirm that within the first week, several apps from the big 4 requested permissions for things that should be absolutely unnecessary. iOS 13 has several great privacy-focused changes: - WiFi SSID is protected behind location permissions (ie, an app must request and be granted location permissions to be able to access the current SSID) - Blueto…

Apple is catching up to Android in privacy ? Good joke :)

This kind of comment indicates how effective the marketing/media kool-aid has been. Having paid very close attention to how both systems work (and having used both iOS and Android extensively in recent months), I don't think I'd necessarily declare either of these platforms a clear privacy champion.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#45

Since installing the iOS 13 beta I've noticed a bunch of apps asking for bluetooth access. I haven't kept track of every one but I do remember YouTube and Netflix asking for it on their first launch. Thankfully, I haven't witnessed any app failing to work by denying the request though.

They’re all listed in Settings > Privacy > Bluetooth, unless uninstalled.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#46
post #29

One thing I found find suspect in iOS 13 is Apple automatically enables collection of data of your usage of 3rd party apps. Any idea what this is for?

Can't address authoritatively, but speculatively, there is reason to believe they would use device telemetry to check their platform exposure to malware.

It's a blanket excuse to say "security," but the only viable malware detection works by inventorying telemetry off-device, as on-device can be detected instrumented around by any advanced attacker.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#47
post #10

Tell your non-it friends to uninstall the facebook app and use the web browser interface instead if they want to stay on facebook. Preferably they also block all 3rd party cookies, use an ad-blocker and occasionally delete all cookies and reset their Ad-Id.

Since mobile browsers now support native notifications and Facebook's website supports browser notifications, you can get most of the benefits of having a Facebook app without actually having to have one (inc. reduced battery drain, reduced privacy invasion, and so on). My current setup is Facebook.com notifications via Chrome [Android] browser and Messenger Lite. It is still spying on me but the impact is substantia…

I replaced Messenger Lite with Disa which is a (when's the last time you heard this) multi-protocol instant messenger platform. Works pretty well for those of my friend who can't get off messenger.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#48

Since installing the iOS 13 beta I've noticed a bunch of apps asking for bluetooth access. I haven't kept track of every one but I do remember YouTube and Netflix asking for it on their first launch. Thankfully, I haven't witnessed any app failing to work by denying the request though.

The one that baffled me the most was the Citi Mobile banking app asking for Bluetooth. Like… what? What possible use is Bluetooth information to a banking app?

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#49

Since installing the iOS 13 beta I've noticed a bunch of apps asking for bluetooth access. I haven't kept track of every one but I do remember YouTube and Netflix asking for it on their first launch. Thankfully, I haven't witnessed any app failing to work by denying the request though.

The one that baffled me the most was the Citi Mobile banking app asking for Bluetooth. Like… what? What possible use is Bluetooth information to a banking app?

Continued: its a rhetorical question of course, there’s only one use and its user tracking.

Re: iOS 13’s privacy pop-ups of Facebook data grabs

#50

Since installing the iOS 13 beta I've noticed a bunch of apps asking for bluetooth access. I haven't kept track of every one but I do remember YouTube and Netflix asking for it on their first launch. Thankfully, I haven't witnessed any app failing to work by denying the request though.

Youtube and netflix likely do this to discover TVs that you can cast your video to

Then Apple needs to implement an API handler for casting video to TV, instead of letting the app handle it.
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