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On this topic, can anyone share their Python setup for Neovim? I used ALE and Deoplete + a bit of Jedi and got frustrated with it breaking / working much worse than ST3 and just removed all the plugins.
Why do we need such things in 2019?
Command line vim is one of the most productive editing environments on the planet, why wouldn't we?
I'm saying that as an emacs user. I prefer emacs, but if I had to work with a language (e.g. Java) where language support is much more sophisticated in a tool like, for example, IntelliJ, then I'd use that instead, because it would make me much more productive.
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Command line vim is one of the most productive editing environments on the planet, why wouldn't we?
Love vim but would hate to use it for Java where I found an IDE such as Eclipse much easier to work with. Back in the day when I used to do that sort of thing.
I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…
I just tried this. I get rendering artifacts when scrolling. BUT! The scroll speed is absolutely wonderful. I've tried all the UIs and always find myself going back to the terminal, but this is something else. Although I have to say fvim looks tempting as well and vimr(I'm not on MacOS anymore). For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's. With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring da…
Most likely true, though i think the "I" part of "IDE" is woefully ignored and (at least to me) is much more important than a hodgepodge of barely related programs strung together with duct tape.
I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…
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Love vim but would hate to use it for Java where I found an IDE such as Eclipse much easier to work with. Back in the day when I used to do that sort of thing.
Language Server Protocol plugins are adding functionality for completion/docs/refactoring these days, and vim-jdb looks pretty decent.
I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…
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Command line vim is one of the most productive editing environments on the planet, why wouldn't we?
I'd say language support is the most important for productivity if we talk about programming. Having the whole API under your fingertips, doing safe refactorings easily, etc. are much more important for productivity than simple editing. If you can refactor a class, move functions, rename variables across the whole project safely (string replace is not enough) with a few clicks then you are much faster than when you h…
First of all, I don't know about vim/neovim, but I think a lot of the issues apply there as well.
When I develop software, I don't need an editor, I need a development environment. I spend 90% of my time reading code, so reading and navigating the codebase should be very straightforward. Most importantly I want to have a tree view of the files in the project, I want to be able to jump to function/class definitions and I want to show usages of functions.
Another big thing is debugging. IntelliJ has really good debugging capabilities.
Also auto-completion.
I think some of these you can get in vim/emacs, but it doesn't come out of the box. I sometimes miss some of my emacs shortcuts/features, but not enough to drop all the amazing things that IntelliJ is offering.
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I just tried this. I get rendering artifacts when scrolling. BUT! The scroll speed is absolutely wonderful. I've tried all the UIs and always find myself going back to the terminal, but this is something else. Although I have to say fvim looks tempting as well and vimr(I'm not on MacOS anymore). For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's. With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring da…
> With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring daemons available for a whole host of languages nowadays these editors are much closer to IDE's than ever before. Most likely true, though i think the "I" part of "IDE" is woefully ignored and (at least to me) is much more important than a hodgepodge of barely related programs strung together with duct tape.
Omnisharp was literally the attempt of MonoDevelop to create an open source alternative to the Resharper engine.
The completion agents for VIM or VSCode do the presentation layer for the lower layer(the language server daemons, or custom completion agents. YouCompleteMe however is all that together in one not as fancy but I like it).
I get where you're coming from, but basically the difference is that vim by itself is a raw editor and until neovim came along never made an effort to merge the functionality that was required for something like this to happen in a nice fashion.
Editors like Oni are basically distributions like VSCode with defaults that are more inline with what you say plus a nicer presentation layer.
Also, neovim doesn't respect scroll amount setting, scrolling three fixed lines per scroll step instead. But I have set it to 6.
set guifont=* -- simply doesn't work
set guifont=Consolas:h10 -- "font reports bad fixed pitch metrics". What?
set linespace=3 -- it changes, but doesn't care to redraw contents (except the cursor) or resize a window so it could fit in a screen. If you're going from 0 to 3-4, it is not even obvious why everything froze and you can't : into command mode (it is simply hidden under the bottom of the screen).
I know that they're after fixing some internals that are hard parts in Vim, but if you're replacing a horse with a car, make sure it is more comfortable than a bicycle. I also know that neovim-qt is NOT neovim core, but...?