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Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by the_duke »

posedge wrote: post #12

What are the most notable improvements over vim that the authors of neovim speak of? https://neovim.io

The most notable for all Vim users is probably forcing upstream vim to merge async support for plugins after refusing it initially; albeit with a different API. (there is quite some bitterness on both sides of this issue, I think)

The other big win is providing a embedding API so other editors can be built on top of the core editing engine. Which resulted in multiple interesting GUI projects which you can find in other comments.

Others are Lua plugin support, good terminal integration, way better default settings, ...

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by bori5 »

YawningAngel wrote: post #31
demee wrote: post #19

Why do we need such things in 2019?

Command line vim is one of the most productive editing environments on the planet, why wouldn't we?

Love vim but would hate to use it for Java where I found an IDE such as Eclipse much easier to work with. Back in the day when I used to do that sort of thing.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by Aissen »

I want to take a moment to thank the Neovim authors, as a VIM user. Thanks to you, VIM has felt the pressure and greatly improved, including the vim 8 async plugin feature (which has now trickled-down in all distros).

I can now use coc.nvim and ccls to have an IDE-like experience inside vim, which really helps reducing further the write-compile-test-fix loop.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by mths »

tadzik_ wrote: post #36
mths wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Otherwise it is pretty much a drop-in replacement without issues. Except for the crashes. The crashes are an issue. Don't get me wrong though, I like nvim. I use it occasionally. But the crashes are an issue.

Interesting. Are you using some sophisticated plugins, some unusual platform? I've aliased vim to neovim a few years ago and it has not crashed once for me.

OSX. Plugins: ale, bufexplorer, nerdtree, rust.vim, vim-airline, vim-airline-themes, vim-colors-solarized

I generally start vim in my src folder on Monday and exit it on Friday. Occasionally, just on a whim, I run nvim instead. Mostly its fine. But the times I've experienced crashes or other hickups like rendering bugs forcing me to :qa!, it's been on nvim.

Edit: Oh and I run it in the terminal, iTerm2 to be precise.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by maccam94 »

vhakulinen wrote: post #5

I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…

> shameless plug

You didn't even mention it's written in Rust!

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by vhakulinen »

rjzzleep wrote: post #34
vhakulinen wrote: post #5

I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…

I just tried this. I get rendering artifacts when scrolling. BUT! The scroll speed is absolutely wonderful. I've tried all the UIs and always find myself going back to the terminal, but this is something else. Although I have to say fvim looks tempting as well and vimr(I'm not on MacOS anymore). For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's. With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring da…

> I get rendering artifacts when scrolling.

If you're using pango 1.44, that is a known issue and there really isn't a proper workaround yet. Quite a few applications using grid based applications are currently broken with pango 1.44.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by eitland »

rjzzleep wrote: post #34
vhakulinen wrote: post #5

I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…

I just tried this. I get rendering artifacts when scrolling. BUT! The scroll speed is absolutely wonderful. I've tried all the UIs and always find myself going back to the terminal, but this is something else. Although I have to say fvim looks tempting as well and vimr(I'm not on MacOS anymore). For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's. With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring da…

> For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's.

Haven't seen this, -it usually goes the other way:

You're doing it wrong, you should use vim!

(I know enough vim to effectively use it to edit configs etc, but I just prefer my IDEs.)

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by xyproto »

rjzzleep wrote: post #34
vhakulinen wrote: post #5

I'll just leave a shameless plug for my neovim GUI project here: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim . It has a WIP PR[1] for implementing multigrid support, which would allow features such as scrollbars. There are many other GUIs too, such as oni/oni2, gonvim, neovim-gtk and neovim-qt. Extensive list can be found here: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Related-projects#gui 1: https://github.com/vhakulinen/gnvim/…

I just tried this. I get rendering artifacts when scrolling. BUT! The scroll speed is absolutely wonderful. I've tried all the UIs and always find myself going back to the terminal, but this is something else. Although I have to say fvim looks tempting as well and vimr(I'm not on MacOS anymore). For those people mocking vim users and bragging about their IDE's. With languageserver and the other kind of refactoring da…

Using NeoVim with nvim-qt should not result in any rendering artifacts.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by maccam94 »

blux wrote: post #30
spraak wrote: post #2

> nvim_open_win: create floating windows (and external, for supporting UIs) I've been running 0.4.0 since it came out for this feature. Also I recommend you check out coc.vim for the best completer. It uses the same language server protocol that VS Code uses (and many of the plugins for coc.vim are forked fr VS Code plugins)

Are there any good alternatives for coc.vim? I do not like the NodeJS dependency.

deoplete is the other major completion engine, and it's written in python.

Re: Neovim v0.4.0

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Post by AdamGibbins »

mths wrote: post #35
climb_stealth wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been running it for quite a few months and there are two improvements that I can think of: 1) In visual mode you have a block cursor and in insert mode it is a |. 2) With ':set inccommand=nosplit' you get live previews for substitution calls. For example :%s/foo/bar/ will update your foos on screen whilst you type the command. Otherwise it is pretty much a drop-in replacement without issues.

> Otherwise it is pretty much a drop-in replacement without issues. Except for the crashes. The crashes are an issue. Don't get me wrong though, I like nvim. I use it occasionally. But the crashes are an issue.

I've been using neovim for years now, I've never once had a crash.
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