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Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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Actually, most of Western opinion about Iran is misguided and plain wrong. Iran is really not as terrible as all the propaganda about it. In fact its quite much like Turkey, except the politicians are better and its not as corrupt.

For Iranian Women it is not allowed to ride a Bicycle in Public.

"and its not as corrupt." -- au contraire!

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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post #6

Actually, most of Western opinion about Iran is misguided and plain wrong. Iran is really not as terrible as all the propaganda about it. In fact its quite much like Turkey, except the politicians are better and its not as corrupt.

You should blog about it and demonstrate how nice it is like this couple.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49670973

"Our biggest motivation... is to hopefully inspire anyone wanting to travel, and also try to break the stigma around travelling to countries which get a bad wrap [sic] in the media,"

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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I was in Iran last year so let's give some perspective why this metric alone is useless: 1. Before university boys and girls learn in separate schools. 2. After university women have almost zero chances for career. It is more probably that they will end up being house wives. I doubt that this has changed in a year. I have not checked my facts - that's impression from speaking with open minded Iranian families (and we…

One step at a time. Substantial cultural or institutional change doesn’t happen in a year or even five years. Anecdotally, the time lines are 20-30 years, if not more. Some countries move faster than others. I don’t think this metric is useless. No one is saying Iran is the bastion of women’s rights. But - More women achieving higher education is a good thing. The younger generations are certainly far more progressiv…

That's absolutely the case - but it depends on city. While we were in Iran we have met some very religious people. But we have met people with whom we could talk even about homosexuals' situation in Iran.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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I've heard the theory that in countries where women are more dependent, like Muslim countries, they have much higher levels of enrolment exactly to be able to escape their dependency on male family members. Similarly in poorer countries, like India and ex-Soviet republics, the enrolment for the sciences versus arts is larger than the rest of the world.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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post #6

Actually, most of Western opinion about Iran is misguided and plain wrong. Iran is really not as terrible as all the propaganda about it. In fact its quite much like Turkey, except the politicians are better and its not as corrupt.

Iran bans females from attending sports events and imposes mandatory hijab (e.g. [0]), Turkey does not.

You can oppose Western policy if you like, but lets talk about the country's policies as they really are.

[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/iranian-female...

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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post #12
post #6

Actually, most of Western opinion about Iran is misguided and plain wrong. Iran is really not as terrible as all the propaganda about it. In fact its quite much like Turkey, except the politicians are better and its not as corrupt.

You should blog about it and demonstrate how nice it is like this couple. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-49670973 "Our biggest motivation... is to hopefully inspire anyone wanting to travel, and also try to break the stigma around travelling to countries which get a bad wrap [sic] in the media,"

Flying a drone in Iran as a foreigner is a pretty stupid thing to do. Especially near a military area. An as a foreigner you wouldn't know where that is - so they really shouldn't have done it. I say this as an Australian too - I've travelled a lot as well and you have to use a bit of common sense when in countries like Iran. Saying that I do wish for their safe release of course.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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post #6

Actually, most of Western opinion about Iran is misguided and plain wrong. Iran is really not as terrible as all the propaganda about it. In fact its quite much like Turkey, except the politicians are better and its not as corrupt.

...and the Hezbollah is a peaceful club of intellectuals organising protestation sittings. And the Guardians of the Revolution were driving through the crowd with sticks to keep the protesters safe.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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post #5

I was in Iran last year so let's give some perspective why this metric alone is useless: 1. Before university boys and girls learn in separate schools. 2. After university women have almost zero chances for career. It is more probably that they will end up being house wives. I doubt that this has changed in a year. I have not checked my facts - that's impression from speaking with open minded Iranian families (and we…

I was born in 1983 in the Netherlands. My mom, and all my friends' moms, were housewives. About half of these moms were university educated or comparably. All their daughters now have proper jobs.

Sounds like Iran is roughly in the same place now, which I assume is a big improvement over some decades ago. Just give it another generation.

Anecdotally, I've tought some CS classes at the local university, to a highly mixed crowd. The Iranian students, every year, were somehow all female, and they were invariably among the top of their class. I'm going to be very surprised if these particular women turn out to become housewives.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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Two months ago I went to a journey called the 'Mongol Rally' which is basically a race when you need to drive from the Czech Republic to Mongolia in a shitty car Because I'm from Israel my team couldn't get into Iran but other teams got into Iran and all of them were extremely surprised. Iranians know how to welcome tourists, they were extremely friendly, the food is delicious, the country is beautiful, and many peop…

Politicians are just that class of criminals we’ve regulated well enough to keep the spotlight on them.

Judging an entire nation by the ugliness of its politicians would be short sighted.

We, us regular folk, have more in common with each other, with our global neighbours, than we ever will the ruling class.

Not every US citizen is a Trump support, and not every Trump supporter is a buffoon. And Australian and UK politics are simply too embarrassing to even mention.

Re: Women make up 54% of new students entering Iranian universities

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I wish it was the same in my African country. Among the things that can make our population slow down a little (5.70 births per woman in 2016), higher education for women is the efficient one. In high school, girls where the majority but in after that ... they are in a drastic minority.
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