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Is Snowden publishing a book at the same time there is some confusion about voting in Russian elections? I'm a big fan of Snowden and don't want to insinuate malice. Is this just a mere coincidence? https://www.newsweek.com/russia-novosibirsk-sergey-boyko-nav...
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Because it's completely unrelated.
Is it? People killing others in secret to avoid information getting out but framing it differently.
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So in this fantasy scenario, China is fine completely screwing him over, and then let's him inform everyone what information they now have? Seems dumb.
He had already broadcast that he had given the information to China. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1260306/edward-s... > Seems dumb. It sure does seem dumb on Snowden's part, doesn't it? Nobody with a technical background who has read Snowden's documents and read what he thought they said has ever accused him of being smart.
Where in that article does it say anything like that? As the closest I can see is that he may have shown something to a Malaysian owned paper.
>It sure does seem dumb on Snowden's part, doesn't it?
No, why would China let him go and publicly release things? There would be so many better ways to handle him.
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> traded a comfortable life in Hawaii for a comfortable life in Moscow A comfortable life in Moscow that was never guaranteed beforehand, and could be arbitrarily taken away with no notice. Being fortune enough to end up in a decent situation does not change what he sacrificed.
> Being fortune enough to end up in a decent situation does not change what he sacrificed. It really bugs me that people who defend him for ideological reasons cannot admit that he had benefited from the entire ordeal. He bemoaned the lack of respect at CIA (being the IT guy isn't high up on the totem pole) and now he can skype into a conference in Geneva with thousands of people hanging on his every word. He has a t…
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> Being fortune enough to end up in a decent situation does not change what he sacrificed. It really bugs me that people who defend him for ideological reasons cannot admit that he had benefited from the entire ordeal. He bemoaned the lack of respect at CIA (being the IT guy isn't high up on the totem pole) and now he can skype into a conference in Geneva with thousands of people hanging on his every word. He has a t…
None of the things he has was guaranteed when he went public. There was a good chance he never made it out of Hong Kong as a free man, and a decent chance of death. Even if he did desire the fame, which I do not personally believe, he risked everything for it.
Like I said, you want a real hero search in the political prisons of Iran or China. Or Russia, the place Snowden now calls home (under circumstances we will never know).
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technically no, an agent is a foreign asset.
Facts getting downvoted. This place has become Reddit with even more blind arrogance. Myth 2: The men and women who work for the CIA are spies and agents Citizens who work for the CIA are officers – not agents or spies. All employees, from operations officers, to analysts, to librarians and public affairs, are considered CIA officers. So, who is a CIA agent? Our operations officers recruit well-placed human assets wi…
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He had already broadcast that he had given the information to China. https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1260306/edward-s... > Seems dumb. It sure does seem dumb on Snowden's part, doesn't it? Nobody with a technical background who has read Snowden's documents and read what he thought they said has ever accused him of being smart.
>He had already broadcast that he had given the information to China. Where in that article does it say anything like that? As the closest I can see is that he may have shown something to a Malaysian owned paper. >It sure does seem dumb on Snowden's part, doesn't it? No, why would China let him go and publicly release things? There would be so many better ways to handle him.
That newspaper is based in China, which can do with information and people within its borders as it pleases. Why do you think he gave out that information out to begin with? There is no benefit to Americans.
He leaked all of that and more just to expose one illegal US program (phone metadata collection). Anybody with a high school degree would think of a better way to handle that.
> No, why would China let him go and publicly release things? There would be so many better ways to handle him.
He did that before China knew what he was going to do. There are so many better ways for Snowden to have handled that data, yes.
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>He had already broadcast that he had given the information to China. Where in that article does it say anything like that? As the closest I can see is that he may have shown something to a Malaysian owned paper. >It sure does seem dumb on Snowden's part, doesn't it? No, why would China let him go and publicly release things? There would be so many better ways to handle him.
> Where in that article does it say anything like that? That newspaper is based in China, which can do with information and people within its borders as it pleases. Why do you think he gave out that information out to begin with? There is no benefit to Americans. He leaked all of that and more just to expose one illegal US program (phone metadata collection). Anybody with a high school degree would think of a better…
It's based in Hong Kong, and the Chinese state accessing published information isn't noteworthy. He exposed numerous illegal hacks done by the NSA on Hong Kong civilians, it's beneficial for Americans to know that their government is doing such a thing.
>He leaked all of that and more just to expose one illegal US program (phone metadata collection)
Your "smoking gun" on giving data to the Chinese exposes yet another illegal US program, and if you look through the other released information you'll find many more.
>He did that before China knew what he was going to do. There are so many better ways for Snowden to have handled that data, yes
No, according to your ridiculous fantasy, he released the information after giving it to the Chinese. It wouldn't matter what he was going to do then, letting him out of Chinese custody would be a huge mistake as it becomes advantageous for him to expose that he gave China information.
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> Where in that article does it say anything like that? That newspaper is based in China, which can do with information and people within its borders as it pleases. Why do you think he gave out that information out to begin with? There is no benefit to Americans. He leaked all of that and more just to expose one illegal US program (phone metadata collection). Anybody with a high school degree would think of a better…
>That newspaper is based in China, which can do with information and people within its borders as it pleases. Why do you think he gave out that information out to begin with? There is no benefit to Americans. It's based in Hong Kong, and the Chinese state accessing published information isn't noteworthy. He exposed numerous illegal hacks done by the NSA on Hong Kong civilians, it's beneficial for Americans to know th…
These hacks are not illegal. I'm flabbergasted that you would think they were. In addition to those legal hacks on Hong Kong infrastructure, he also exposed legal hacks on mainland Chinese infrastructure. Americans already know the government is doing these things. They do not need to know the details of which systems were compromised and when, and the Chinese government especially should not know these things.
Again, there is only one illegal data collection program in the terabytes of data that Snowden leaked. That is reckless and stupid at the very least and treasonous by his leaks of Chinese target details to China at worst. Did you ever stop to think why he would choose to divulge that information first, while he was in Hong Kong?
> No, according to your ridiculous fantasy, he released the information after giving it to the Chinese.
That is your ridiculous fantasy. I never said that.
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>That newspaper is based in China, which can do with information and people within its borders as it pleases. Why do you think he gave out that information out to begin with? There is no benefit to Americans. It's based in Hong Kong, and the Chinese state accessing published information isn't noteworthy. He exposed numerous illegal hacks done by the NSA on Hong Kong civilians, it's beneficial for Americans to know th…
> He exposed numerous illegal hacks done by the NSA on Hong Kong civilians These hacks are not illegal. I'm flabbergasted that you would think they were. In addition to those legal hacks on Hong Kong infrastructure, he also exposed legal hacks on mainland Chinese infrastructure. Americans already know the government is doing these things. They do not need to know the details of which systems were compromised and when…
From your source. You're flabbergasted that I think the illegal programs you brought up were illegal.