Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

ridecabin.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

161–170 of 175 posts

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#161

Post by sgc »

bdauvergne wrote: post #118

There is only 600 km between the two cities (I'm french distance between SF and LA was unknown to me before :) ), a normal train (200 km/h, with TGV it would be 2h and some) would take a bit much than 3 hours; with google map I only see fields, desert and mountains for nearly 550 km, why sleep in a bus ?

SNCF was in contract to help build a fast train in California, but the political climate created such a backwards "fast train" they pulled out because they didn't want to be involved with making shit. Dragging the US into the future has always been difficult to say the least.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#162

Post by pontifier »

jmpman wrote: post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

Autonomous RVs will change everything. I'll definitely be buying one when they are available. I like RVs but they are a challenge to drive. Take that downside away, and you have my ideal travel situation.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#164

Post by wavefunction »

protomyth wrote: post #108
skunkworker wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wal-Mart has allowed for overnight parking for quite awhile. It's even in their corporate Q&A[1] Q: Can I park my RV at a Walmart store? A: While we do not offer electrical service or accommodations typically necessary for RV customers, Walmart values RV travelers and considers them among our best customers. Consequently, we do permit RV parking on our store parking lots as we are able. Permission to park is extended…

Several stores in North Dakota have banned the practice because of abuse and other problems.

Due to oil fields and lack of housing I imagine.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#165

Post by sjtgraham »

gambiting wrote: post #156
sjtgraham wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true these fines are unenforceable. Parking tickets/fines are allowed in UK law for breaking the rules on public land. Parking on private land is governed by contract law. For a contract to be legally binding it needs to consist of the elements of a contract: offer, acceptance, and consideration, i.e. payment. Which UK supermarket charges for parking?

Literally every single one in the UK. But it's not even supermarkets, pretty much every car park in this country works like this, I've even seen ones next to pubs and cinemas have that(made for a fun viewing of Alien + Aliens in a promotional re-release few years ago, the staff at the cinema were warning everyone that if you parked outside and are here to see both movies in one go you will be charged for overstaying…

From your link "A court may decide that you breached a contract with the parking operator and that you must pay the charges."

I don't understand how free parking satisfies the elements of a contract. There is no consideration. This would make sense if you paid for parking (thereby forming a contract) and overstayed (breach of contract).

Can you explain that for me?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#166

Post by rst »

rayiner wrote: post #148
rst wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In countries with real high speed rail, this is not the case. Tickets on Italian Freccia trains are comparable to US bus fares between major cities. Acela in the US is expensive because it competes with planes - and laughably slow by world standards (not much faster than trains ran on the same routes in the 1950s).

High speed trains can be very expensive in European countries as well: https://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-adv-bullet-fare... > The French bullet train from Paris to Lyon is often cited as a line that is profitable, but it has a fare of 52 cents a mile. The German bullet train from Hannover to Wurzburg charges 46 cents a mile. > On the East Coast, Amtrak’s Acela system, the closest thing to high-speed rail n…

Rome to Florence on high speed (Freccia) trais purchased three days in advance is ~$40 for an economy fare. Is someone quoting business class?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#167

Post by jbverschoor »

rst wrote: post #142
rayiner wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High speed trains are “public” transit in the very loosest sense. They are way too expensive to be used by ordinary people on a regular basis. The California HSR was supposed to be $80-100 each way. Multiply that by four for a family trip and compare it to the cost of driving. And even that price is optimistic. A trip from DC to New York on the NER booked a month out for my family, two adults two half-price kids, is…

In countries with real high speed rail, this is not the case. Tickets on Italian Freccia trains are comparable to US bus fares between major cities. Acela in the US is expensive because it competes with planes - and laughably slow by world standards (not much faster than trains ran on the same routes in the 1950s).

This is simply not true.

Yes, in some countries public transport is cheap. Also flux is is super cheap But trains are just expensive. It’s almost always cheaper to fly. That’s for 1 person. Multiply by 4 and it makes no sense to take a train.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#168

Post by jbverschoor »

rayiner wrote: post #148
rst wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In countries with real high speed rail, this is not the case. Tickets on Italian Freccia trains are comparable to US bus fares between major cities. Acela in the US is expensive because it competes with planes - and laughably slow by world standards (not much faster than trains ran on the same routes in the 1950s).

High speed trains can be very expensive in European countries as well: https://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-adv-bullet-fare... > The French bullet train from Paris to Lyon is often cited as a line that is profitable, but it has a fare of 52 cents a mile. The German bullet train from Hannover to Wurzburg charges 46 cents a mile. > On the East Coast, Amtrak’s Acela system, the closest thing to high-speed rail n…

Exactly

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#169

Post by jbverschoor »

ghaff wrote: post #155
rayiner wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High speed trains can be very expensive in European countries as well: https://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-adv-bullet-fare... > The French bullet train from Paris to Lyon is often cited as a line that is profitable, but it has a fare of 52 cents a mile. The German bullet train from Hannover to Wurzburg charges 46 cents a mile. > On the East Coast, Amtrak’s Acela system, the closest thing to high-speed rail n…

And the Shinkansen, while a great train system especially in combination with Japan's train system generally, isn't cheap. A quick look says $130 for Tokyo to Kyoto--a common several hour route--one way, no-reserved. (Which sounds about right from my experience although I always have gotten one of the tourist passes you can only purchase overseas.) You get outside of Western Europe and Japan and trains tend to get ch…

As a tourist you can buy a rail pass (500€) which also includes the Shinkansen. But yeah, similar prices and distance as: Amsterdam Berlin Amsterdam Paris

Actually they can be 200+ each way

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

#170

Post by matchbok »

parsimo2010 wrote: post #84

The claim that their bus is 1.6x smoother than a train is impossible, and indicative of marketing taking priority over honest metrics. How is 1.6x smoother impossible? Imagine a maglev train has bumps with a peak amplitude of 2 cm. Then 1.6x of that is 3.2 cm. So to be 1.6x smoother they would need their cabin to reduce bumps to -1.2 cm, which is impossible. The truth is often the inverse of this, such as, “maglev tr…

That's not how math works.
Post reply on HN