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It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

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Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#31
I didn't read this as RMS minimizing sex trafficking or defending rapists. I read it as him making an inappropriate argument about semantics in entirely the wrong place. These are very different things, and it seems like many people, including the author of that Medium article, really want it to be the first instead of the second.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought this much would be obvious by now, but here we go. The people who traffic and rape children are mainly found among the filthy rich so called elite. If you want to do something about that, punching RMS won't help. The thing about RMS is that he prefers to use his own brain and is not afraid to stand up for his views, which is an increasingly rare phenomenon. So rare that its nearly considered a crime these d…

So he uses his own brain to advocate for the "elite" and that's somehow admirable.

That sounds very unlikely to me, and would need to be backed up by solid proof.

I think you need to take a chill pill and figure out where all the hate is coming from.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#33
What am I even reading in this thread?

> The perpetrator is a victim, there's no doubt about that. Psychopaths aren't born, they are created through trauma in a society that doesn't give a crap about humans.

> This is cancel culture taken to the extreme.

> I grow more and more tired of these discussions. Talks of banishing people because they’re ignorant, rude, sexist.

Stallman is, and has, defending child sex trafficking and rape.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#34
post #14

I grow more and more tired of these discussions. Talks of banishing people because they’re ignorant, rude, sexist. Conferences are getting shut down, people are having their world turned upside down for being ignorant. Every topic is a hot potato. I feel i can’t even have a reasonable conversation about diversity, ignorance, or whatever the controversy of the day is. It’s easier to just be quiet than express opinions…

Why can't you have a reasonable discussion? Stallman emailed a big mailing list for a computer science department the following about a child sex trafficking victim: "The reference reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem…Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it). ... We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as en…

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Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#35
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who aren’t comfortable associating with someone who defends child rape.

Which - to the best of my knowledge - Stallman has never defended.

“ I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily [sic] pedophilia harms children.”

https://stallman.org/archives/2006-mar-jun.html#05%20June%20...

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#36
Jesus Christ, HN.

I read this article and my reaction was: damn, I knew RMS was weird and opinionated, but I didn’t know he was evil.

I come here to see how others react to this revelation and what do I find? “By golly, what is the world coming to when you can’t even defend child rape without someone calling for your removal from leadership?”

Y’all motherfuckers need Jesus.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#37
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who aren’t comfortable associating with someone who defends child rape.

Which - to the best of my knowledge - Stallman has never defended.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-sci... has a redacted email thread.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#38

I didn't read this as RMS minimizing sex trafficking or defending rapists. I read it as him making an inappropriate argument about semantics in entirely the wrong place. These are very different things, and it seems like many people, including the author of that Medium article, really want it to be the first instead of the second.

How old is this man?

He's not stupid. He knows what he's doing.

What a cop out to say "no he was just really hung up about grammar. "

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#39
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People who aren’t comfortable associating with someone who defends child rape.

Which - to the best of my knowledge - Stallman has never defended.

Maybe read the link about which we are all talking.

Re: It's time to talk about post-RMS Free Software

#40

I didn't read this as RMS minimizing sex trafficking or defending rapists. I read it as him making an inappropriate argument about semantics in entirely the wrong place. These are very different things, and it seems like many people, including the author of that Medium article, really want it to be the first instead of the second.

“...the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing.”
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