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Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

Same as with trains: Its not cabins pricing thats expensive, its flights being too cheap - mostly due to tax subsidising of kerosin and similar. With proper energy costs and carbon pricing the bill would look different

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that kills this niche is booking a sleeper car ticket on the capitol corridor. Amtrak does all this but better. Train is quieter, there's a full dining car with meals cooked in a legit kitchen, more space to walk around, fantastic view in the observation car. Only thing they don't do right is advertising. Did you know the sleeper car comes with 3 meals a day? I didn't. On reflection the other issue is that…

I love taking Amtrak, but my god the food is terrible.

I found the food on the Amtrak Coastal Starlight (Seattle-LA) better than expected, and their wines were much better than I expected (comparable to Asian airlines' wines in business class). A pleasant journey all round really.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

Basically, no. Unless you're in a very popular area, there will be no limits on parking. I've noticed that even out of the way english parking lots have strict limits and frequently automated camera systems for finding perpetrators. Do you know why that is? To keep out "undesirables"(gypsies, vagabonds)?

Many supermarkets in the UK outsource maintenance of their car parks to private firms, who benefit from being able to charge after a certain period has elapsed. It's the same with hospitals, train stations, council car parks. It makes me sad.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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The claim that their bus is 1.6x smoother than a train is impossible, and indicative of marketing taking priority over honest metrics. How is 1.6x smoother impossible? Imagine a maglev train has bumps with a peak amplitude of 2 cm. Then 1.6x of that is 3.2 cm. So to be 1.6x smoother they would need their cabin to reduce bumps to -1.2 cm, which is impossible. The truth is often the inverse of this, such as, “maglev tr…

They may have licensed the Bose Ride system, which is sold to commercial truck drivers to smooth out bumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_G9GCpWAcM

Edit: Looks like Bose has sold it to Clearmotion:

https://www.clearmotion.com/active-suspension-seat

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Wow, it's almost like there's demand for a high-speed, non-driving land route between LA and SF. If only we had a fixed route land vehicle that could provide a smooth, direct route that had enough space for people to do things like sleep, rest, and use the bathroom. Maybe I'll call this idea 'a high-speed train' and propose that California build one between LA and SF... oh wait.

I heard a really good argument against high-speed rail in California. We only have so much money to spend on transit. Transit problems tend to be bigger within cities than between them--5 is under-utilized, 880 is over-utilized--so it makes sense to concentrate efforts where we'll get the most return. Projects like a second BART tunnel and Caltrain electrification have a bigger impact on people's lives than a train t…

See I kind of disagree. High speed train would let people live outside of SF which in turn would ease the pressure on the currently existing city transit.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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I’d be satisfied with executive-class buses like they have in Mexico. Comfortable seats and useful timetables.

I’m a veteran of overnight train service between Chicago and Pittsburgh. One thing I noticed is that cheap flights are still a huge waste of time. If you fly out Friday night, you spend all evening in airports, risk getting bumped off an overbooked flight, and arrive tired at a hotel you have to pay for as well. On the way back you need an early enough flight that you aren’t dead at work on Monday.

On the overnight train you hang with friends near the station, hop on the train and go to sleep, waking up fresh on Saturday morning. You have the whole weekend to do whatever and you hop on the train at the end of Sunday. Monday morning you arrive fresh, probably 20 minutes early for work.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

$0.20 a mile in an RV? Fuel alone will be more than that.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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There is only 600 km between the two cities (I'm french distance between SF and LA was unknown to me before :) ), a normal train (200 km/h, with TGV it would be 2h and some) would take a bit much than 3 hours; with google map I only see fields, desert and mountains for nearly 550 km, why sleep in a bus ?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

So truck drivers don't overnight at UK supermarkets? What do they do when they can't park at a truck stop and they're out of legal driving hours for the day?

I'm driving a semi truck. I'm parked in a Kroger parking lot in Fort Worth TX (in an out of the way corner), having slept here overnight. Kroger is unusual, I mostly use Walmart when I can't find "legitimate" parking, because the lots are generally bigger, near interstates, and easier to navigate a truck and 53 foot trailer through.

I tried a nearby truck stop first, but there were no spaces.

Two nights before I slept on an interstate on ramp on Alabama. There were ten to fifteen other trucks on that same ramp, and when I left the next morning most of the subsequent ramps were full of trucks.

Which is to say, I'm a frequent Walmart parker, by necessity.

I've never seen a specific time limit at a Walmart lot. Sometimes I see no truck parking signs at Walmart, or no overnight signs (and sometimes i park there anyway, especially if there are other trucks there).

I have seen time limit signs at some rest areas, for six or eight hours. Yet truckers are required to stop for at least ten hours between working days. I ignore those signs.

And by the way, depending on the part of the country, those rest area off and on ramps are usually also packed with trucks.

I've only been told to move once, waking me from sleep, when I accidentally parked in a paid reserved space at a truck stop. (Yep, they have those, more and more.)

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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post #81
post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

The thing that kills this niche is booking a sleeper car ticket on the capitol corridor. Amtrak does all this but better. Train is quieter, there's a full dining car with meals cooked in a legit kitchen, more space to walk around, fantastic view in the observation car. Only thing they don't do right is advertising. Did you know the sleeper car comes with 3 meals a day? I didn't. On reflection the other issue is that…

The capitol corridor goes to Sacramento and not LA. The Amtrak from SF (well Oakland) to LA leaves at 9am and arrives at 9pm. The one coming back leaves at 10am and arrives at 10pm. Hardly convenient timing and 4 hours slower than the bus (and that's without even counting the BART time to get into SF itself).
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