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Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by randallsquared »

gambiting wrote: post #98
jmpman wrote: post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

It's not American supermarkets in general, but specifically Wal-Mart. Most Wal-Mart stores allow RV parking overnight. I would expect that UK supermarkets have only scarce parking, but Wal-Mart away from city centers typically has so much parking space that the lot is literally never full.

For example:

https://goo.gl/maps/PqQR9BD3Kshs4vvZ9

https://goo.gl/maps/B6ai1vRxJg5B63vr7

https://goo.gl/maps/DPCpegpGedKgy9TC9

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by maelito »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #100

While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

Maybe reduce the carbon footprint ?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by oh_sigh »

gambiting wrote: post #98
jmpman wrote: post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

Basically, no. Unless you're in a very popular area, there will be no limits on parking. I've noticed that even out of the way english parking lots have strict limits and frequently automated camera systems for finding perpetrators. Do you know why that is? To keep out "undesirables"(gypsies, vagabonds)?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by atomwaffel »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #100

While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

I’m not sufficiently familiar with the geography of SF or LA – how does the door-to-door time and cost compare when you account for the fact that most trips don’t actually start and end at an airport? I’d much rather catch a sleeper bus/train in the city centre in the evening, sleep for 7–8 hours (something I’d be doing anyway) and wake up in another city centre the next morning with a full day ahead of me than deal with the hassle of travelling to an airport, going through security, killing time at the gate, and travelling back to the city centre at my destination.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by ulfw »

I love how pointless some of their Apple-style Marketing blurb is.

“1.6x smoother than a Maglev train” (which I highly doubt because they don’t have connection to the ground and ‘fly’ above the guard rail but whatever)

How many Californians have ever been on a Maglev (such as the Shanghai Transrapid). How does anyone know what 1.6x smoother means compared to something uncomparable

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by peteretep »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #100

While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

Maybe the over-engineered sleeping platform is the point? Nail that with some patents, get the cost down, and you can put one in autonomous vehicles, airplanes, all manner of trains, etc etc etc. Get it right and mass produce it and the market size is gigantic.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by awalton »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #100

While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

As someone who loathes flying with the heat of a thousand suns and who has taken that route on Amtrak, I'll be happy to try this service at my next convenience.

I don't hate the ride on Amtrak, but it's a hard route to sleep, since it's just a little too short to be worth booking the sleeper (which ends up being about double the rate compared to the bus ride), and sleeping in the open cabin can be a bit of a challenge. That, and the roads are at least capable of allowing for some routing around, unlike Amtrak which frequently hits freight traffic and has a pretty abysmal on-time reputation for the Coast Starlight.

Not all of us are in a rush, and most of us could use a good night of unplugged sleep. Plus it shaves off a night in a hotel, so there's actual savings there too.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by protomyth »

skunkworker wrote: post #99
gambiting wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

Wal-Mart has allowed for overnight parking for quite awhile. It's even in their corporate Q&A[1] Q: Can I park my RV at a Walmart store? A: While we do not offer electrical service or accommodations typically necessary for RV customers, Walmart values RV travelers and considers them among our best customers. Consequently, we do permit RV parking on our store parking lots as we are able. Permission to park is extended…

Several stores in North Dakota have banned the practice because of abuse and other problems.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by awalton »

tryitnow wrote: post #12
tathougies wrote: post #6

Wow, it's almost like there's demand for a high-speed, non-driving land route between LA and SF. If only we had a fixed route land vehicle that could provide a smooth, direct route that had enough space for people to do things like sleep, rest, and use the bathroom. Maybe I'll call this idea 'a high-speed train' and propose that California build one between LA and SF... oh wait.

I'm all for high speed rail, but why is it so expensive and why does it take so long to build? China has been able to build out a high speed network fairly quickly. Why is it that? Is it just because they're cutting corners?

> I'm all for high speed rail, but why is it so expensive and why does it take so long to build?

Both have the same answer: because there's a whole lot of lobbyists that don't want it built. And it's not a secret - even the first segment they're building is just a screaming indicator of how little they want this thing to come to life.

Neither the airlines nor the car manufacturers nor the petrochemical companies nor billionaires like the Kochs want the thing to happen, so they're happy to shut it down at every possible turn - just look at every propaganda piece the "Reason Foundation" keeps pumping out against the project.

France and Italy are covered in high speed rail projects that make this one seem almost trivial by comparison, but we can't do it because politicians are too happy to take a few campaign dollars and enjoy some free filet mignon medallions and expensive red wine than represent the people who elected them.

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