It's twice the price of a flight, and with planes you can pick between 3 major airports in SFBA and 5 in LA, which are probably closer to the locations you're really going between.
Not for the times involved, right? If you want to leave late on Friday and leave late on Sunday to maximize the day time you're spending then it's comparable.
Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
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Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
#62> Whenever the vehicle experiences an event that will create vertical acceleration for our resting guests (the feeling of “bumpiness”)
aka whenever the vehicle goes over a bump?
Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
They appear to be initially targeting the customer who wants to take a weekend trip to LA from SF or vice versa. That’s a high volume route, which also makes it super competitive for air travel. It seems a round trip flight costs on the order of a one way Cabin bus ride, so I assume they are targeting customers who have chosen not to fly for personal reasons.
Flights in Canada are very expensive. If they could perfect the experience and expand the market I could see this working well. They could sell "Travel Across Canada" all while you sleep. Wake up in a new location each day. All of Canada in a week. No going to the air port and all that mess just meet back at the bus at a certain hour.
A european company did something like this: Busabout. They ran a circuitous route (or two) around W. Europe. You'd buy a 30d pass and hop on/off wherever you wanted. You could continue, back-track, whatever you wanted.
Doubt they had sleepers.
Kinda like the Eurail passes I guess.
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#64Wow, it's almost like there's demand for a high-speed, non-driving land route between LA and SF. If only we had a fixed route land vehicle that could provide a smooth, direct route that had enough space for people to do things like sleep, rest, and use the bathroom. Maybe I'll call this idea 'a high-speed train' and propose that California build one between LA and SF... oh wait.
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#65Wow, it's almost like there's demand for a high-speed, non-driving land route between LA and SF. If only we had a fixed route land vehicle that could provide a smooth, direct route that had enough space for people to do things like sleep, rest, and use the bathroom. Maybe I'll call this idea 'a high-speed train' and propose that California build one between LA and SF... oh wait.
I'm all for high speed rail, but why is it so expensive and why does it take so long to build? China has been able to build out a high speed network fairly quickly. Why is it that? Is it just because they're cutting corners?
Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because China can tell you “hey you don’t live here anymore” and plow right through neighborhoods and farms. Our property rights in the US are pretty absolute.
Not quite absolute, the government of New London, Connecticut took a home away from Susette Kelo and gave it to Pfizer because it would produce more jobs and taxes. Our property rights are not secure, and we could lose them by simply not paying property taxes.
"As a result, many states changed their eminent domain laws. Prior to the Kelo decision, only seven states specifically prohibited the use of eminent domain for economic development except to eliminate blight. Since the decision, forty-five states have amended their eminent domain laws, although some of these changes are cosmetic"
And in the end, they didn't even use her property as intended:
"In spite of repeated efforts, the redeveloper (who stood to get a 91-acre (370,000 m2) waterfront tract of land for $1 per year)[citation needed] was unable to obtain financing, and the redevelopment project was abandoned. As of the beginning of 2010, the original Kelo property was a vacant lot, generating no tax revenue for the city.[2] In the aftermath of 2011's Hurricane Irene, the now-closed New London redevelopment area was turned into a dump for storm debris such as tree branches and other vegetation."
Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
#67I love the idea and if it were available on the 7 hour drive I do on the regular I'd use it but some of this marketing copy is extraordinary! > Whenever the vehicle experiences an event that will create vertical acceleration for our resting guests (the feeling of “bumpiness”) aka whenever the vehicle goes over a bump?
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#68Can they order a whole bunch more and find a place to park them in SF near a gym? Then they can charge $1000 per month per spot.
Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back
#69I love the idea and if it were available on the 7 hour drive I do on the regular I'd use it but some of this marketing copy is extraordinary! > Whenever the vehicle experiences an event that will create vertical acceleration for our resting guests (the feeling of “bumpiness”) aka whenever the vehicle goes over a bump?
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#70* They operate a single service once a week on a round trip from SF to LA that departs SF 11pm Friday and departs LA 11pm Sunday? And they have no published timetable beyond Dec 2020?
* The bus has twenty total berths and each one costs about $100? Five of the berths feature the "Cloud Bump Cancellation System" thing that's being talked up on the ridecabin.com/product page?
* So do they have one total bus?
* They are selling about $4k per week of bus tickets? Does that cover the operating expenses of their very nice looking booking system and the regulatory obligations associated with being a bus company?
* What happens if something happens to that one bus -- does everyone get some other kind of bus ticket or what? The terms of transport seems to say ( https://www.ridecabin.com/termsoftransportationservices ) that they'll try to buy you a bus ticket if their bus isn't working. So ... if the bus is broken down you probably don't know until 11pm and then, how long does it take to get an alternate bus ticket? Where do those backup buses leave from and what timetables do they typically use and how do you get there?