Alabama tracking students' locations to penalize them for leaving games early

Post by heavenlyblue » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 12:07 AM UTC

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Can you elaborate how you think that applies to this discussion? Seems like you are arguing semantics to me. The Church of Scientology is a considered a non-profit institution in the U.S. as well. Do you believe that The Church of Scientology is a benevolent actor? I don't. I believe their primary purpose is profit and they are taking advantage of their followers and the U.S. taxpayer in the same way these universiti…

You said the motivation was "profit" which means that the owners of the organization make money that they can go spend on themselves as they please. This literally does not happen for the vast majority of universities. What you are describing is more like "growth." And maybe the kinds of growth universities are investing in isn't great right now. That's a fine conversation to have. This isn't just a semantic distinct…

Post by aidenn0 » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 12:36 AM UTC

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The way this whole thing started was between very urban Ivies in the USA: > The first organized college sports club was formed in 1843 when Yale University created a boat club.[4] Harvard University then followed in their footsteps, creating a similar boat club a year later. These boat clubs participated in rowing races called Regattas.[5] The creation of these organizations set the stage for the first intercollegiat…

I don’t disagree the sport started in the ivies, but not where it became massively commercialized. Right now the Northeastern football programs are not very competitive, with the exception of Notre Dame. I can’t do this analysis right now, but I’d bet that there is a strong correlation between college football revenue and distance from professional teams, adjusting for the date at which the professional teams were fo…

Post by _match » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 1:23 AM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #193

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I don’t disagree the sport started in the ivies, but not where it became massively commercialized. Right now the Northeastern football programs are not very competitive, with the exception of Notre Dame. I can’t do this analysis right now, but I’d bet that there is a strong correlation between college football revenue and distance from professional teams, adjusting for the date at which the professional teams were fo…

And Notre Dame is neither northeastern nor urban.

Post by partialrecall » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 3:12 AM UTC

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The likely reason they're using phones, not keycards, is because students would be more likely to let their buddy hold onto their keycard than their phone. A phone is more personal/sensitive and the stress of being without it for even a short period of time doubtlessly reduces the incidence rate of 'fraud.'

Doesn't everyone have an old phone at this point? Is the app going to check if activity implies it is their current phone? It seems easy and less intrusive for the majority(?) who wont get anything in return for installing a sketchy app to just give tickets out randomly toward the end of a game and anyone who is there at the end more often has a better chance of getting one.

Post by sushid » Sat, Sep 14, 2019, 4:11 AM UTC

cosmie wrote: post #145

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Tuition rates for Harvard and Princeton in particular are deceptive since if you earnestly cannot afford that tuition, they don't ask you to pay it. Those schools are often actually cheaper than public schools for people without much money. Other expensive private-nonprofit schools may be another matter entirely. But those two are bad examples to use.

> Those schools are often actually cheaper than public schools for people without much money. While this is true on paper, it's not always the case in practice. I was able to get multiple acceptance offers to Ivy League schools, and poor enough to have the sliding scale of tuition slide all the way to $0. But all of them had an estimated cost of attendance[1] so optimistic about ancillary expenses during the school y…