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Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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I just got an itemized bill today for a minor fall I took a couple months back.. On top of the nearly $6k in other charges from the hospital, they charged $531 for one dab of superglue or "liquid stitches" on my forehead for something that would have healed by itself. One of my friends died two years ago from pneumonia. He didn't go to the hospital when symptoms first started because he was afraid of the bills that w…

I just got an emergency room bill. I had a severe sore throat and fever for 2 weeks, step tests came back negative. Then at night my back side started hurting so I went to the ER. I paid $850 at the ER and today I received another bill for $850. The only thing on the Bill just says > "Charges": $11,680 > "Adjustmnets: $9,980 I just got off the phone with them and they say that it will take 10 business days to receive…

That Single visit @ 11.5 k is about my total tax bill for a year in the UK.

This year I had sepsis and had a two week stay in hospital - o dread to think what that would have cost

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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Just to pile on about how ridiculous medical costs are: After giving birth my wife was offered Ibuprofen. On the bill we were charged $80 for the 2 pills she took. This was before Obamacare. After Obamacare I twisted my ankle and the doctors insisted I wear a cheap fabric boot with stiff plastic plates while it healed over the next couple weeks. I asked how much it cost and they said $280. I took it off and refused i…

It isn't just about getting everyone insurance. It's about fixing the whole process. My Dr ordered some not too expensive tests for me. My insurance refused. I was like, wait, what? You're overriding my Dr? It's insane.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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I was charged $50 for 2 tylenol when I had my appendix taken out. The CVS down the street would sell you a 24-pack for $5.

Of course, that was just a minor component of the final $50,000 bill ($4k for me after insurance), but it still sticks out in my mind many years later because it was an easily comparable baseline.

Health insurance companies get alot of the blame for the broken healthcare system in America but I place most of it on the providers - doctors, hospitals, and drug companies. They bill an order of magnitude too much. Sometimes more. Attacking doctors seems to be a much less politically palatable option than attacking big insurance corporations, even though those doctors are essentially gouging their loyal patients with no qualms about it.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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Just to pile on about how ridiculous medical costs are: After giving birth my wife was offered Ibuprofen. On the bill we were charged $80 for the 2 pills she took. This was before Obamacare. After Obamacare I twisted my ankle and the doctors insisted I wear a cheap fabric boot with stiff plastic plates while it healed over the next couple weeks. I asked how much it cost and they said $280. I took it off and refused i…

DME is the absolute worst. Try getting a CPAP machine anywhere near MSRP. It's a joke. We are being fleeced.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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The hospital sling was $200 according to the article.

Amazon sling is $12.99 to $16.99 according to the article.

So hospital sling is 12-15 times more expensive.

So I suspect that the original writer of the article correctly wrote that hospital sling is 10 times more expensive.

Then the editor came and decided that 10 times more expensive looks not as scandalous as 900% more expensive.

The result is false precision https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_precision and bad journalism.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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I’m sure going to get downvoted for this but.... I just don’t pay my medical bills I pay my dentist and eye doctor bills since those are different. But I just let my insurance pay their part and I walk away from the rest. I haven’t had anything catastrophic yet. But have and do have bills in the 1,000s. My credit score is great in the 740+ range. I know big stuff they could take me to court or put a lien on my proper…

I tried to make payments to the hospital on a few thousand in bills, fell behind, and eventually got sued. I would not offer this as advice to anybody.

If somebody from the hospital had told me _before_ I got served that I could get 85% of my bill written off just by submitting some paystubs, I would have appreciated it. If you're in a similar spot, call and ask about patient financial assistance or similar programs.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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Another thing that bugs me in the whole "medical cost" disaster that is the USA. Whenever you talk to Doctors or other medical practitioners about the situation they blame the hospitals, or the insurance companies or but ultimately they are complicit in the mess, but they don't want to rock the boat, its just shameful.

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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I’m sure going to get downvoted for this but.... I just don’t pay my medical bills I pay my dentist and eye doctor bills since those are different. But I just let my insurance pay their part and I walk away from the rest. I haven’t had anything catastrophic yet. But have and do have bills in the 1,000s. My credit score is great in the 740+ range. I know big stuff they could take me to court or put a lien on my proper…

Do you go to a different dentist and eye doctor each time?

Also, if you had to go to an emergency room, would you give them fake personal info so they can't send you bills?

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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I had a deep split over my eye (metal ring tossed while I was still down range) and knew going to the ER for stitches would end up costing thousands for a five minute stitch job, so I pinched it together and put on superglue. Healed better than stitches and cost me nothing. I hate our medical system too.

Loctite (blue package) works as good as superglue but stings a lot less.

You mean Loctite’s blue-package cyanoacrylate right, not their thread locker. Right?

Re: Medical equipment pricing is completely broken when a sling costs $200

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just got an emergency room bill. I had a severe sore throat and fever for 2 weeks, step tests came back negative. Then at night my back side started hurting so I went to the ER. I paid $850 at the ER and today I received another bill for $850. The only thing on the Bill just says > "Charges": $11,680 > "Adjustmnets: $9,980 I just got off the phone with them and they say that it will take 10 business days to receive…

I am not a lawyer or financial advisor. But I’ve heard that you can’t be sent to collections if you make a good faith attempt to pay your (medical) bill. Which in practice might mean you just pay $5 while you wait for the itemization

Our first born came with a $42k bill. Hospital and doctor said we were covered by our insurance pre-auth, but come bill time apparently pre-auth was null and void b/c it was requisite on a negotiation that fell through. Each side had a different story and their representatives acted absolutely helpless.

We were broke at the time we found out about the pregnancy and memories of the first two years of my boy's life are largely dominated by this kafka-esque nightmare that took time and security away from our family life. I refused to pay a cent until what we were told was honored, my thinking being any sort of payment may legitimize it.

Eventually I didn't hear back from the hospital about our latest contestation for two months after confirming their receipt of the documentation (about a four hour process each submission, always new fax numbers, life-wasting hold times to confirm receipt of said documentation, transfers to other agents and departments, then a promise of giving a decision in a few weeks, often just reprinting the last non-descript document they used in the previous round without any real detail). Decided to just do nothing and ignore it as long as I didn't get contacted again and got everything ready to go to court if someone ever decided to pursue it against us again. The documentation I've been holding from the ordeal is 60 pounds of paper.

I still have no idea what the true status is, but it hasn't shown up on credit checks and our boy is now 5 years old.

I could not find anyone in various governmental institutions to even look into the matter and the lawyers I talked to said the outlook of winning was grim and would have cost a lot of money on top of that to even pursue it. Our insurance company [Anthem] posted a $17 billion profit that year. The hospital had the highest gross profit of any hospital in our city and the surrounding area at $80.4 million declared. Both entities make so much money they give away individual debts amounting in the tens of thousands of dollars for pennies (maybe ours included?).

It's an absolutely depraved system and my point is maybe be careful showing good faith to an entity trying to screw you lest it be taken as consent.

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