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Interview with Edward Snowden

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#31
> if I had wanted to live a safe life, I would still be sitting in Hawaii in paradise with the woman I love collecting a huge paycheck to do almost no work.

Regardless of if he is a hero or villain, he does have integrity.

People that sacrifices their safety or lives to help a good cause are the ones I respect the most. I hope he will be able to visit his country safely sometime.

p.s. Please fix the title, it is clickbaity and almost unrelated to the actual article/interview.

Re: Interview with Edward Snowden

#32
Spiegel has become one of the worst propaganda magazines (not for the government, but for highest bidder) in Germany. It was once famous for investigative journalism, nowadays the most relevant question is who paid most for the article.

Sorry for this rant.

Still, occasionally you'll get a really good article. This is probably one of those.

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post #18

>The class of which I am a part of, the global technological community, was for the longest time apolitical. We have this history of thinking: "We're going to make the world better." I think a lot of people in the tech community need to come to grips with the fact that you can't be apolitical in a democratic country. Refusing to engage in politics is an abdication of your role in a democratic society. You certainly h…

If there is something specific you would like people to do, please do go ahead and advocate for it. What organizations do you support, and why? Not this content-free guilt-mongering, it doesn't help anyone.

Honestly, for me now, neither of the big two political parties, at least at the federal level. Join any organization that fights for your constitutional rights: all of them. People have to understand that these interests are so entrenched and powerful, and the game is so rigged, it will only get worse.

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#35
post #26

Is Snowden publishing a book at the same time there is some confusion about voting in Russian elections? I'm a big fan of Snowden and don't want to insinuate malice. Is this just a mere coincidence? https://www.newsweek.com/russia-novosibirsk-sergey-boyko-nav...

It's an English-language title, and publishers typically schedule things months or years in advance.

Re: Interview with Edward Snowden

#36

Spiegel has become one of the worst propaganda magazines (not for the government, but for highest bidder) in Germany. It was once famous for investigative journalism, nowadays the most relevant question is who paid most for the article. Sorry for this rant. Still, occasionally you'll get a really good article. This is probably one of those.

All traditional reporting institutions have been fighting for their survival for a decade or so now.

Re: Interview with Edward Snowden

#37

One thing I always find striking is that Snowden is very good at articulating himself on the fly. He doesn’t always “sell” the general audience, as he gets too technical. However, he’s extremely good at providing solid answers consistently to pretty much every question.

I thought it was kind of surprising at first then I realized it’s because he already thought deeply about everything he’s been asked. After careful deliberation he made a moral choice to leak information at great risk to himself. This makes him not only good to talk through the technical implications of his choices but also moral ones.

Please consider alternative narratives.

He acted selfishly, not morally. Like a startup founder he wanted to disrupt an existing infrastructure, with a one-sided view of the trajectory his impact would have on the domain. Any collateral damage would be easy to hide in the personal narrative memory hole.

Deep thoughts and intellectual defenses are not so hard to construct, should not be uncritically accepted with significant corroborating evidence, and should certainly not be taken in any way to imply morality, as shown by the growing list of deep thinkers who supported and participated in Jeffrey Epstein's schemes.

With Snowden we have very little corroboration, so best reserve judgement. And if he does wind up dying as many other Russian actors have...

Re: Interview with Edward Snowden

#39
I respect Snowden's ability to clearly articulate his position. I look forward to his book. And unlike the somewhat polarizing discussions of others, I found his statement on the difference to between intelligence and the actions of covert action, propaganda, and influence to be quite reasonable. In much the same way that accounting systems suggest you firewall the people who can sign checks from the people who can enter legitimate expenses to prevent embezzlement, the 'rules' in an intelligence agency have to firewall the collection and analysis of intelligence from the operational abilities on the other side.

We see this is civil intelligence agencies where police officers (who are the operational end of law enforcement) are given direct access to intelligence sources (from places like Palintir) and then abuse that relationship to collect intelligence on enemies (like ex spouses) in order to inform how they can operate against them.

A more effective system is to put a strong firewall between the intelligence and the operator so that there is always documentation when operations requests intelligence information and the justification given for that collection. It creates an auditable paper trail that allows for a prosecutorial effort to be mounted against bad actors.

As one person put it, watching the watchers only works if you have a record of everything they have done that can be authenticated. Such a system would log every piece of intelligence an analyst received, and with a check in place to validate a 'need to know' for things like a target's spouses nude photos, your auditors could weed out bad actors in the pipeline. That is the sort of structure that makes institutions stable and more difficult to corrupt. Processes that survive execution with a number of bad actors.

Re: Interview with Edward Snowden

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post #18

>The class of which I am a part of, the global technological community, was for the longest time apolitical. We have this history of thinking: "We're going to make the world better." I think a lot of people in the tech community need to come to grips with the fact that you can't be apolitical in a democratic country. Refusing to engage in politics is an abdication of your role in a democratic society. You certainly h…

If there is something specific you would like people to do, please do go ahead and advocate for it. What organizations do you support, and why? Not this content-free guilt-mongering, it doesn't help anyone.

> If there is something specific you would like people to do, please do go ahead and advocate for it.

Asking someone to tell you what you're supposed to do defeats the purpose of participating, which was kind of the point the OP was making.

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