Estimates that mineral levels in vegetables have dropped by up to 90% since 1914

Post by mshroyer » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 8:42 PM UTC

wil421 wrote: post #2

The link got that actual paper is much better than a sentence or two on LinkedIn. The paper’s title isn’t as catchy to put in nicely. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6163803/ From my link: >It is important to note that the USDA mineral content of vegetables and fruits has not been updated since 2000, and perhaps even longer, given that the data for 1992 was not able to be definitively confirmed for this…

Post by jjoonathan » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 PM UTC

pasabagi wrote: post #16

opportune wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If organic food actually had a noticeably higher mineral count than nonorganic, I would start eating it. But I don’t see why organic food would actually have more minerals. Organic doesn’t mean healthier it just means that it uses different kinds of pesticides, to my knowledge

Presumably, using natural fertilizers would make a difference, as you'd expect a wider range of minerals than in straight haber-process fertilizer. I don't know if natural fertilizers are always a requirement for organic food, though.

Post by fucking_tragedy » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 8:43 PM UTC

chrisco255 wrote: post #7

testfoobar wrote: post #3

Soil depletion: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-an... I have a friend who refers to vitamins as "expensive pee". He means taking vitamin pills when you eat a good diet containing fruits and veg is unnecessary because your body will excrete out the excess. I like to point out to him that fruits and veg are not what they used to be.

Don't forget meat has absolutely tons of essential nutrients and vitamins, some of which can't be found in fruits and vegetables.

Post by graeme » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 8:44 PM UTC

behringer wrote: post #9

testfoobar wrote: post #3

Soil depletion: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/soil-depletion-an... I have a friend who refers to vitamins as "expensive pee". He means taking vitamin pills when you eat a good diet containing fruits and veg is unnecessary because your body will excrete out the excess. I like to point out to him that fruits and veg are not what they used to be.

It's not only expensive pee, but also potentially damages your kidneys. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi... You shouldn't take supplements unless your doctor advises you to due to some (actual and not perceived) deficiency.

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 8:47 PM UTC

fucking_tragedy wrote: post #20

JohnJamesRambo wrote: post #6

Growing food has turned into an engineering problem where people think you solve it by investing the least possible resources into it. Whatever the consumer will buy and you can produce as cheaply as possible wins the day. Our tasteless vegetables are like cheap Bose (no highs, no lows, must be Bose) speakers or pressed paper furniture at Walmart. On the surface they look like a vegetable should look, but the taste,…

> Growing food has turned into an engineering problem where people think you solve it by investing the least possible resources into it. Our economic system optimizes for exactly this.