Google is scared shitless with the DOJ investigation on them.
Elevating original reporting in Search
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Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#82Okay let's give this a try news.google.com -> Democratic debate Websites: BBC, Vox, Guardian, NYT, WaPo, CNN, Slate (wow), The New Yorker, USA Today Absent: National Review, Fox News, Wall Street Journal, reason, Forbes, RT So basically the news algorithm considers these kinds of stories high quality: 1) Stephen Colbert plays Democrat Drinking Game (NYT) No Greg Gutfeld sketch ? 2) Funniest one-liners at the Democrat…
There should also be more representation from far-left organizations.
See this article on how Google traffic to far-left sites dramatically dropped in 2017, due to Google deciding to promote "authoritative" content ahead of "alternative viewpoints": https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/09/19/goog-s19.html
"Authoritative content" seems correlated with center-left in the US context, though the US center-left may be considered centrist or even center-right in some other countries.
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#83Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
Absolutely-— for a year or two now. These days, if I have success with even a mildly technical Google search, it’s because I’ve enclosed every single term in quotation marks and/or turned on verbatim search, which doesn’t even work that well. Google is trying so hard to think for you that they’re ruining their core product.
Hey -- do you have an example? (I work on Search.)
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#84Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
Oh thank god, I thought I was going crazy or my problems were so unique. For instance just recently I hit 4 separate TEIID errors and googling the IDs led to unrelated pages either to TEIID itself or pages containing completely different IDs. Using quotes helps of course, but useful results were on 3 page or later. Can we create a github repo with examples? I believe dev experience using Google is going really downhi…
Yes, please -- or at least paste a few examples here (I work on Search.)
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#85Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
Same here. Often, I have to rephrase my search 5-10 times before I see a result worth clicking on.
Hey -- do you have an example? (I work on Search.)
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#86If this change is executed well, it will be a relief for original content creators such as myself. I am involved in researching and writing original content, and in recent years our articles keep getting buried by low-effort regurgitators who slightly rewrite our work, then rank above us because their version is newer. I've even bellyached about this on HN before:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19766276
So, here's hoping Google succeeds in setting thing slightly straighter.
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#87Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
I just noticed the same problem. Searching for "lithium" wont let me find the wikipedia article for the metal. News and youtube song from Nirvana are showed instead. PD: Google knows I'm very interested in renewable energy, they constantly suggesting me news regarding the said matter.
That's curious, you don't get the large info card (on the right, if on desktop/laptop)? That has a direct link to Wikipedia.
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#88I found the rater guidelines document linked in this blog post quite insightful. Sections like how to assess the "E-A-T" rating (Expertise, Authoritativeness, and Trustworthiness) will be useful to me when writing content. https://static.googleusercontent.com/media/guidelines.raterh...
I don't think anybody calling it "content" should ever be considered trustworthy. The word reeks of hastily rephrased Wikipedia solely intended for search engines.
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
By "content" I was trying to convey all the personal and professional output that I'd like to be seen (writing, social media posts, stackoverflow answers, HN comments etc)
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#89Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
There was talk years ago by Paul Graham perhaps at one of the Pycons. It was about not being afraid to do what other big companies do and take them on. When it came to search, that big company was Google, of course. He predicted that over time, due to various reasons, Goole will move into personalizing the search results too much where they'd stop being useful or interesting. "It's true if it's true for you" is the phrase he used. And it seems to me that he was essentially right.
So, say I search for corn, but Google thinks corn is bad for me, cause I've been eating too much of it, and potatoes are better, so they just go ahead and substitute corn with potatoes to help me out.
On one hand it's nice, they think they understand what I really need. On the other hand, it's very bit creepy when it goes overboard.
Re: Elevating original reporting in Search
#90Has anyone found that recently Google search is becoming more and more useless? Google tends to ignore what I actually type in, and tries to search according to some weird NLP machine learning inference on what it thinks I'm actually trying to ask. Top results will include maybe 50-75% of the words I actually typed in, and it will treat the rest as mere hints or related words. My queries end up looking like this afte…
Twice in the last month I found Bing gave me a better search result than Google (thing I was looking for in the first couple answers, not even on the first page in Google). That never happened to me before.
For something like two years I've been using bing more and more. Google is filtering/censuring the results so much about anything remotely controversial, i.e. torrents, streams, politics on a certain political spectrum, news etc... Basically Google is telling me I should not be using its services anymore, and I'm ok with that. Bing will at least let me find the links I tell it I want it to find.