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The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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I have lived in Shanghai and had an electric scooter as my main mode of transportation for several years, its incredible for city traffic and i miss it.

However, I dont get why everyone is using these standup kickbike type scooters... those suck, clearly.

Scooters like Niu is where its at: https://www.niu.com/en/

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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My point is that top speed is only relevant when a train can reach it. If a train stops every two miles or less (like mine does in the morning), the vast majority of the time is spent accelerating, decelerating, or stopped.

Is your train an electric multiple unit? Those have far lower stop penalties.

Rolling stock acceleration is specified & designed based on requirements which is based on passenger safety & comfort (especially on regional / intercity trains) rather than rolling stock constraints: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40864-015-0012-y

Modern "diesel" trains are diesel electric, outside of large freight trains the motors don't really strain to accelerate.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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While the folding bike concept is cool, and it's actually really handy to be able to take them on trains where a non-folding would be disallowed, and while they are also more convenient than a full size bike, they're still big and cumbersome when folded up. I can take mine on the bus, but that wouldn't be my first choice. I can take a regular Lyft, but not a Lyft Line with it. (I mean I could, but that's a dick move.…

Agree, you need something like the below to make it work, but it'd be a revolution in transport! http://www.bike-intermodal.eu/ Note that the A-bike falls into this territory, bar the tiny wheels http://www.abikecentral.com/index.html Edit: I'd forgotten about another type, the monowheel, though they do require some skill: https://www.airwheel.net/home/product/X5

...and for normal bikes this would be a quick and easy win in many cities:

https://www.permaculture.co.uk/readers-solutions/public-tran...

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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post #301

I have lived in Shanghai and had an electric scooter as my main mode of transportation for several years, its incredible for city traffic and i miss it. However, I dont get why everyone is using these standup kickbike type scooters... those suck, clearly. Scooters like Niu is where its at: https://www.niu.com/en/

I saw the scooter/motor bike craze in India and I have to say I was not impressed. It was a necessity, yes, but instead of everyone riding million scooters public transport should be the main mode of transportation for majority of people in big cities. The traffic is already too congested and with every oil-burning vehicle out there unsustainable.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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I ride a regular non-electric scooter regularly and the biggest problem with it is the weather. The scooter solves the "last mile" problem for me, but I can depend on it only for ~7 months in a year, which means I can't really plan my commute, choose the places where I live and work.

I don't see this problem discussed enough and can't imagine anything better than public transport for the winter. It's a real bummer.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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In Copenhagen it's often the opposite: the rest of the group came by bike, they're within 20m of the current bar, the person on foot will have to turn up later. Or we all walk. (Also, the suburban trains and taxis carry bikes for free.)

Is that the case in the winter too? I just started bike commuting in SF and have been wondering how it works in bike oriented colder countries when it starts raining/snowing.

Here in the Netherlands during winter, bike paths are cleared/salted before most residential streets. That together with the sheer amount of bicycles keeps all mayor bike paths clear enough, though it does get slippery.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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Ideally, we'd have carless urban centers, with only buses, light rail, and small vehicles (bikes and scooters) allowed in a certain radius. This would allow greater density in the downtown area, eliminate most pollution, and promote general health, yet for some reason, nobody seems to propose it. It could even be coupled with free mass transportation in that region, since costs for running such a service would likely…

> The toughest nut to crack And you somehow managed to completely forget that families with small children exist.

Every time we put my son onto or into a bike, I'm reminded of the impossibility of our existence.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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You have the deal with the bike afterwords. Go for brunch in the mission and your friends are going back to the outer sunset with a scooter just fold it up and put it in the car with a bike either hope it's there when you get back, bike all the way, or go home then head over alone.

The answer is a Brompton or other folders you can even get an electric Brompton now.

They're horribly expensive.

Cheap, properly portable, properly rideable: choose two.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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> It was easily 4-5 times faster than walking I can walk a mile in 20 minutes which is 3 mph. This implies these scooters can maintain 12-15 mph? Am I just underestimating how fast you can get going on these things? That seems kind of fast unless you are going downhill both ways.

The Xootr in particular glides really really well. If you're used to the cheapo Razor scooters, it's worlds apart, even from the larger-wheeled Razor A5. The relative speed depends on the terrain. If you're on concrete sidewalks, like I am, I'd say it's 3x faster. If you're on asphalt, then 4x is reasonable. Downhill, 5x easily.

Is a Xootr really worth so much money? I just checked because I like the idea and they're close to 300€ here.
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