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Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by shkkmo »

stale2002 wrote: post #100
cr0sh wrote: post #39

It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…

> my real preference would be for us to all work toward eliminating these national-level borders completely I mean, ok, that means that you literally support open borders. It is fine for you to think that, but you should realize that the vast majority of the population does not support it. So it is not just "republicans or conservatives" that oppose open borders. It is instead basically everyone. This company is not…

I think you might be surprised how many people support open borders.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by mc32 »

johnny22 wrote: post #147
mc32 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US has had hands in Chile and Panama. They’re doing pretty well. We haven’t touched Argentina or Uruguay or Bolivia. Uruguay is doing well, the other two not so much. The U.K. and France and others had their hands in the US, we’ve done okay. [and let’s not ignore the lengths the USSR went to try and destabilize us as well]. It’s not what someone has done to you, it’s what you do for yourself. Look at S Korea, Tai…

"we haven't touched argentina". that is not true at all.

Compared to others on the list who have overcome? Taiwan, Singapore, S Korea, Qatr (looking at you VZ), Panama, Chile. At some point they have to realize they need to help themselves and forge a future.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by filoleg »

mrguyorama wrote: post #141
dang wrote: post #47

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The submitted title ("Palmer Luckey's new startup, a virtual US/Mexico wall, valued $1B by A16Z") broke the site guidelines, which ask: " Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. " We've reverted it to the original now. Submitters: Rewriting titles has a massive effect on discussion, so please don't do that unless the original title is misleading or linkbait. https://new…

>misleading or linkbait Those are massively subjective concepts, especially in the modern political climate. Have you considered adding examples or further discussing this point in the guidelines?

While that would be nice, I don't feel like in this scenario it would have mattered at all. The actual title of the article is pretty clearly neither misleading nor a linkbait.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by drak0n1c »

jamespo wrote: post #138
mc32 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US has had hands in Chile and Panama. They’re doing pretty well. We haven’t touched Argentina or Uruguay or Bolivia. Uruguay is doing well, the other two not so much. The U.K. and France and others had their hands in the US, we’ve done okay. [and let’s not ignore the lengths the USSR went to try and destabilize us as well]. It’s not what someone has done to you, it’s what you do for yourself. Look at S Korea, Tai…

Yes, what a fine time the population had under Pinochet

The point countering the parent comment is that the country didn't fall apart. Since it is not an inevitable outcome, the US shouldn't get all the blame. European and Asian countries also suffered heinous acts of subjugation and total war but they do not have an inevitable permanent incapability as a result.

Concerning Pinochet - despite his many abuses, in a pragmatic sense he did improve the country's stability relative to the actions of other South American leaders, and stopped a popular slide into socialism by showing that free markets can also create prosperity. Note that his successors kept most of his economic policies intact due to their efficacy and popularity.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by [deleted] »

jobigoud wrote: post #45
gotoeleven wrote: post #19

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Maybe this is too off topic for HN, but I'm genuinely curious what is the best argument for why it is bad/racist to enforce immigration laws? I've heard people argue that a wall won't be effective. But some people seem to have the view that immigration laws shouldn't be enforced at all and we should allow people to use whatever loopholes (refugee status, traveling w/ children) there are to get in and then not show up…

I'll bite because I'm ambivalent about immigration laws. Why should people that just happen to be born in a third world country live a shitty life with no way out? You can't just say they have to do a revolution in their own country, not everyone is interested in activism, why should this be the fight of their life instead of stuff they actually want to do? You were born in a nice place by sheer luck. It's unfair. I…

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Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by bobcostas55 »

webwielder2 wrote: post #13
Axsuul wrote: post #11

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Why super-villain? This is a responsible alternative vs. building a monstrous, ugly wall that is a travesty to nature and could potentially save taxpayers billions. We still need to protect our borders but we need to do it in the most non-invasive way with technology.

Why do we need to protect our borders? Why not just let people live wherever they can afford?

Because they impose externalities on the people around them.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by lliamander »

shkkmo wrote: post #151
stale2002 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> my real preference would be for us to all work toward eliminating these national-level borders completely I mean, ok, that means that you literally support open borders. It is fine for you to think that, but you should realize that the vast majority of the population does not support it. So it is not just "republicans or conservatives" that oppose open borders. It is instead basically everyone. This company is not…

I think you might be surprised how many people support open borders.

Oh, there might be quite a few in terms of absolute numbers, but as a percentage of the population they are most definitely in the minority.

See this Harvard poll from last year: https://caps.gov.harvard.edu/news/caps-harris-poll-immigrati...

Not only do the majority of Americans not want open borders, they want less immigration than is currently occurring.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by fiblye »

DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #94
WillPostForFood wrote: post #54

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Why should a homeless person be forced to sleep on the street when you have a perfectly good couch in your living room. Yet you keep your door locked.

Because a country is not a house. The analogy is fundamentally flawed. Our government can provide for immigrants in ways that individuals simply cannot.

Governments provide nothing. They make someone else provide.

If the government needs a couch, they don’t poof a couch into existence and everyone’s happy. They either take your couch or have someone sit down and make one.

It’s bizarre though how many people think governments can simply “provide”. America now can’t even provide for all the struggling people who already live there. You could argue that they could redefine their priorities and focus on immigrants, but that comes at a cost of something else, and people affected by those cuts would not be happy.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by zerr »

prepend wrote: post #142
cr0sh wrote: post #39

It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…

I applaud your honesty in expressing a desire for open borders. I think culture would benefit from more open and honest discussions on this topic as all the double speak makes it frustrating and boring to discuss, normally. I’m not really very interested in borders one way or the other but national borders certainly aren’t “artificial.” There are certainly some artificial aspects (lines of longtitude, etc) but border…

The thing is, everyone should have a right to change countries/cultures as they want - it shouldn't be determined by the birth lottery.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by kchamplewski »

prepend wrote: post #142
cr0sh wrote: post #39

It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…

I applaud your honesty in expressing a desire for open borders. I think culture would benefit from more open and honest discussions on this topic as all the double speak makes it frustrating and boring to discuss, normally. I’m not really very interested in borders one way or the other but national borders certainly aren’t “artificial.” There are certainly some artificial aspects (lines of longtitude, etc) but border…

Borders being primarily geography and culture is a very western perspective on things - in Africa for example a huge proportion of borders were arbitrarily drawn by colonisers. And even in Europe and other western regions, certain borders are the way they are more for political reasons than because of true distinctiveness.

Also, different regions within countries tend to be able to maintain their distinctiveness rather well despite a lack of internal borders, and in parts of Asia and Africa were borders were recently enforced by external intervention, culture continues to exist across them and despite them, so it feels like cultural differences and borders are not as closely correlated on a global scale as one may at first think.

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