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California bans private prisons

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Re: California bans private prisons

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>Servin said that while the new law was a significant victory, there was one other thing immigrants rights groups were concerned about. When several sheriffs’ departments canceled their contracts to house Ice detainees last year, instead of freeing the detainees, Ice moved many of them to prisons in Colorado and Hawaii.

Is this something that people against private prisons believe...that they just release all the prisoners when they close the prison?

Re: California bans private prisons

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Does it really remove the profit motive from incarceration? There are still thousands of vendors of various types making probably billions of dollars off of prisons, private facility or no.

Progress is better than no progress.. Removing profit motives can only happen by reducing profit motives

Re: California bans private prisons

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The cynic and me sees this as a win... for the prison guards union.

It seems to me that whether public or private, prisons should have good, independent oversight. Pretending that the "profit motive" is the biggest issue overlooks the horrific abuses committed by guards in California's public prisons.

Re: California bans private prisons

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Does it really remove the profit motive from incarceration? There are still thousands of vendors of various types making probably billions of dollars off of prisons, private facility or no.

Progress is better than no progress.. Removing profit motives can only happen by reducing profit motives

They're still making a great point. Yeah it's progress but I think most people aren't aware of the extent of the problem, making further progress impossible. There's some really terrible abuses happening, like replacing visitors with video chat that you have to pay for.

More info: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/visitation/

Another example: getting rid of donated books and libraries in favor of paid tablets that also restrict the books you can buy, both for political and monetary reasons.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Progress is better than no progress.. Removing profit motives can only happen by reducing profit motives

They're still making a great point. Yeah it's progress but I think most people aren't aware of the extent of the problem, making further progress impossible. There's some really terrible abuses happening, like replacing visitors with video chat that you have to pay for. More info: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/visitation/ Another example: getting rid of donated books and libraries in favor of paid tablets that also re…

True... the outrageous telephone call fees being just one completely unjustifiable thing that comes to mind.
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