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Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by _iyig »

akhilcacharya wrote: post #59
_iyig wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>So - while I would prefer a "monitored solution" to border control over physical imposing measures, my real preference would be for us to all work toward eliminating these national-level borders completely. You sound like someone with the ability to live anywhere, who consequently has little stake in their current "somewhere." Lots of Americans (and people in other countries) don't have this flexibility. They are di…

> who consequently has little stake in their current "somewhere." As first generation American this is dangerously misguided and follows the debunked lump of labor fallacy. It reminds me of the "rootless cosmopolitan" slur.

>It reminds me of the "rootless cosmopolitan" slur

You have no idea how offensive and ridiculous that statement is to me.

It’s the reality that if you earn more than a certain amount of money, and posses an advanced degree plus a certain amount of capital, your relocation options are vastly greater than someone with fewer credentials, less capital, and a smaller salary.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by dmm »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #61

For various reasons, I'm slightly sketched out by pretty much every company I've heard of that is named after something from Lord of the Rings. Even when I don't think they're contributing to a dystopian surveillance state (à la Palantir and this one), you have the other HN front-page story about Mithril Capital being accused of mismanaging investor funds. Is there some weird self-selection that causes only certain t…

Rivendell bicycle works is quirky but harmless.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by lacker »

cr0sh wrote: post #39

It's hearing things like this that make me regret having supported Luckey on his Kickstarter. I had followed him for a few years on the MTBS3D forum when he was experimenting with various HMD prototypes (usually modding the heck out of the Forte VFX-1). He just seemed like a kid with a dream, and the will and ability to make it happen - and potentially revive VR for "Round 2". I suppose he did do that, and while I di…

I don't have any problem with someone being a republican or a conservative, but I can't and couldn't understand why someone would support a person like our current POTUS.

88% of Republicans think that Trump has done a good job as president, so if you think supporting Trump is not okay, then you basically do have a problem with someone being a Republican.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ra...

40% of the country is Trump supporters, so we shouldn't be surprised when one unicorn founder is a Trump supporter.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by ganitarashid »

pfisch wrote: post #65
ganitarashid wrote: post #56

What is wrong with enforcing border security laws? Curious why you think less of him for supporting those efforts.

It is pretty easy to foresee monitoring technologies like this being used for awful purposes. I'm not a big fan of creating newer and better technological solutions to suppress poor people.

Then how should border security be enforced in your opinion? Or should it not?

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Post by sjg007 »

This is probably how the wall should be built for the most part. It allows wildlife to freely roam but then uses AI to identify specific threats. This will probably save a lot of lives too. Then Trump can have his wall and we can all laugh that it is invisible but it will hopefully be effective for border security and environmentally friendly.

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Post by hbosch »

commandlinefan wrote: post #35
consumer451 wrote: post #9

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A bit of a tangent, but how is the US/Mexico border a "defense" issue? The Mexican military is not planning an invasion. I am unaware of any Latin American terrorist groups threatening the USA. I am not trying to be pedantic here, but words are important. If the US/Mexico border is a defense issue, then it should be entirely militarized? Andruil would be most accurately described as a surveillance company, would it n…

> how is the US/Mexico border a "defense" issue? Well, whether you agree with it or not, part of the justification is that if anybody can cross easily, terrorist groups will, too. IIRC, the 9/11 hijackers didn’t fly into the US since we were looking for them, they flew into Canada and crossed the border (although Canada’s not Mexico, of course…)

> Well, whether you agree with it or not, part of the justification is that if anybody can cross easily, terrorist groups will, too.

You don't hear a lot about the big wall we need across the Canadian border.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by cameronbrown »

jetrink wrote: post #57
mc32 wrote: post #52

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It becomes a bit of a tragedy of the commons. People elect awful governments who promise paradise and country’s economy craters resulting in mass exodus (Venezuela). Why should Colombians or Chileans (or Americans) shoulder their poor choices of government and civil society? If some country wants to grow unsustainably and follow unhealthy land use habits and then have problems, why should others shoulder that (outsid…

By that logic, should we not confine the residents of West Virginia to their home state as its coal-based economy collapses? Or should we allow them to move to other parts of the country to seek jobs so that they can lead happier, more productive lives?

No, we should try and fix the area and make it better. Throwing your arms up and saying "fuck it, we're leaving" is understandable on an individual level, but on a societal level the effects are devastating.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by reroute1 »

rufus_3 wrote: post #68
jobigoud wrote: post #45

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I'll bite because I'm ambivalent about immigration laws. Why should people that just happen to be born in a third world country live a shitty life with no way out? You can't just say they have to do a revolution in their own country, not everyone is interested in activism, why should this be the fight of their life instead of stuff they actually want to do? You were born in a nice place by sheer luck. It's unfair. I…

> sheer luck Not really. Your ancestors worked hard to improve the environment you were born in. It wasn't luck that created western civilization, it was the hard work and ingenuity of the generations that came before us.

Sure, but none of that has anything to do with you or your accomplishments which is where luck enters the equation as to your starting place.

For the record I think borders should be secure, but also allow pathways to citizenship.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by paulcnichols »

vlucas wrote: post #51

There was a really great podcast where Palmer was interviewed about this company and why he chose to focus on it: The Human Code - Anduril Industries & Oculus VR Founder Palmer Luckey (69 MINS) https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/turner-podcast-network/the-... It might help shed some light on the "why" that many people here seem to be asking here in the comments.

This is indeed a really great podcast. I'm sympathetic to his points that 1) the US is falling behind and 2) that in a strong democracy policy plays a big role in shaping the technology.

Re: Anduril, a startup from Oculus founder Palmer Luckey, now valued at $1B

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Post by sjg007 »

caconym_ wrote: post #67
_iyig wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>So - while I would prefer a "monitored solution" to border control over physical imposing measures, my real preference would be for us to all work toward eliminating these national-level borders completely. You sound like someone with the ability to live anywhere, who consequently has little stake in their current "somewhere." Lots of Americans (and people in other countries) don't have this flexibility. They are di…

If we want to stop undocumented workers from fueling a race to the bottom in unskilled labor markets, we should make more than a token effort to go after the business owners who employ them, and impose meaningful punishments to deter others. This is just another example of the gross hypocrisy of the GOP: it's well documented at this point that businesses owned by their top man make a habit of employing undocumented w…

I agree. We should have a guest worker program if they job exists. Have an app that monitors compliance, pays taxes etc... It's the businesses that want the unlawful immigrants precisely because they can pay them so little and have no worker protections. And we see that ICE raids basically shutdown processing plants and farms when they clear out a whole community.
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