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The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do scooters solve any of these problems? Do you not have to park scooters? Do they not suck in the rain? Do they not need some surface to ride on?

The great thing about the scooter is that it isn't mine, so I don't have to worry about it getting stolen. That's it. That's the killer feature.

And a rental bike does not have this feature?

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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The last mile has been solved? Now we simply need to make the 50-75 miles in-between more bearable. Hopefully, someday soon we’ll be covering that vast distance at the incredible speed of 100 mph (160 kph) https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-driverless-maglev-t...

> Now we simply need to make the 50-75 miles in-between more bearable.

Mine is 15 miles, and the problem is stops (which top speed does nothing to address).

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do scooters solve any of these problems? Do you not have to park scooters? Do they not suck in the rain? Do they not need some surface to ride on?

For rentable escooters, the consumer doesn't really have to worry about them being stolen. And they're easier to park than bikes.

By park you actually mean litter everywhere, as there are very few designated parking places, much fewer than for bicycles.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#24
post #4

Isn't the best solution for "last mile" for all of us is to walk it?

Last mile is kind of a badly chosen phrase. It should really be the last 10 minutes or 20 minutes.

Journeys (especially commutes) are bounded by how long you're willing to travel, rather than how far.

Anyway, some people may be able to walk from the station to work in 10 minutes, that radius is fairly small though. A scooter increases that radius significantly, allowing many more people to be within 10 minutes of the station.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or bike it. Also healthy and infrastructure and laws are there. People with disabilities cannot use these scooters anyway, they need something different.

People with disabilities can't use stairs, should we stop building those too? It's okay to support a mode that only most of the population can use. There are still other modes, just like with stairs and elevators/ramps.

That's explicitly not what I meant. I meant that disabled people cannot use either.

The scooters solve no problems bicycles already do not, not exactly even portability yet.

They create problems of litter on sidewalks, trash generation due to damage (where rental bikes are typically fixable if damaged) and issues of safety as they're much less visible and people tend to not use the bell...

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#26
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do scooters solve any of these problems? Do you not have to park scooters? Do they not suck in the rain? Do they not need some surface to ride on?

For rentable escooters, the consumer doesn't really have to worry about them being stolen. And they're easier to park than bikes.

What makes a rentable scooter easier to park than a rentable bike?

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#27
Honest question: How do people lock these things if visiting a shop for a half-hour?

(Edited to add: Sorry for confusion! I'm talking about an owned model like the one in OP, the Xiaomi Mi M365 - I looked at some product imagery and it wasn't clear if this was possible.)

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#28
post #4

Isn't the best solution for "last mile" for all of us is to walk it?

Walking is slow. Walking a mile takes around 20 minutes. If you walk a mile to the transit station at the beginning and walk a mile at the end, that's 40 minutes of travel time before you even factor in the bus/train trip. Of course, walking is to be encouraged where practical, but it has a very short effective range compared to a bike or scooter. Scooters and bikes drastically extend the effective reach of transit s…

>Walking is slow. Walking a mile takes around 20 minutes.

Maybe if you are crawling. Thats 3 miles an hour.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#29
post #4

Isn't the best solution for "last mile" for all of us is to walk it?

It's probably the best solution for you. Please let other people decide what's best for them.

It's not just about choice, it's a safety issue.

https://www.consumerreports.org/product-safety/deaths-tied-t...

> Earlier this year, a CR investigation—which tabulated injuries from 110 hospitals in 47 U.S. cities—found that at least 1,500 riders had been injured since e-scooters were introduced in late 2017, and there were four fatalities. Since then, CR has identified an additional four deaths.

Re: The Rise of the Electric Scooter

#30
post #3
post #2

The last mile has been solved? Now we simply need to make the 50-75 miles in-between more bearable. Hopefully, someday soon we’ll be covering that vast distance at the incredible speed of 100 mph (160 kph) https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-driverless-maglev-t...

> Hopefully, someday soon we’ll be covering that vast distance at the incredible speed of 100 mph (160 kph) > https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-driverless-maglev-t... Intercity / regional trains are already a thing, and 160kph or so is a standard top speed for them e.g. Class 387, SNCF Class B 81500, … [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Régiolis [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_B_81500

Currently the main problem is that trains run late, mostly due to insufficient infrastructure and old stuff breaking down. Sometimes accidents or mismanagement.
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